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Old 12-12-2018, 05:08 PM
 
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It's coming from China.
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Old 12-12-2018, 07:24 PM
 
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What?

Fentanyl is a SYNTHETIC opioid. No one disputes it's good properties.
And?
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Old 12-12-2018, 07:26 PM
 
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Yes. It's only deadly when abused.
+1. No one wants to hear that though...
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Old 12-12-2018, 09:23 PM
 
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Yes. It's only deadly when abused.
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+1. No one wants to hear that though...
That's not exactly accurate.

In nearly all cases, people are unaware that fentanyl has been mixed in with the drug they're using.

Fentanyl is extremely strong and relatively inexpensive, and it's mixed in with heroin to increase the potency. Heroin users, unaware of this, consume their normal amount and end up overdosing.

Fentanyl is also mixed in with coke and meth - resulting in many overdoses and deaths.

Again, in nearly all cases, people don't know about the fentanyl. So, it's not really about abusing it.
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Old 12-12-2018, 09:50 PM
 
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At this point, I doubt any illicit drug user is unaware that his substance of choice might be spiked with fentanyl.

But addiction is powerful and they take that chance.
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Old 12-12-2018, 10:06 PM
 
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At this point, I doubt any illicit drug user is unaware that his substance of choice might be spiked with fentanyl.

But addiction is powerful and they take that chance.
I agree...at this point. The key words here, though, are "might be".
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Old 12-12-2018, 10:23 PM
 
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Also, even if the drug user is fully aware that fentanyl has been mixed in, they have no idea how much was mixed in.

Fentanyl is approximately 50 times more potent than heroin, so just a tiny amount extra added in can be the difference between a very strong high and an overdose death.
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Old 12-12-2018, 11:38 PM
 
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The evidence shows that over 90% of so-called opioid overdose deaths are the result of polydrug poisoning. It is relatively difficult to overdose on heroin alone or painkillers alone, although it can be done if you are determined enough. However, mixing heroin with another drug such as alcohol, benzodiazepines, cocaine, or opioid painkillers is extremely deadly.

The mix of opioids with benzodiazepines or alcohol is not simply additive; it is synergistic. The respiratory center in the brain contains both opioid and GABA receptors, and when the opioid receptors are shut down by heroin and the GABA receptors are shut down by alcohol or a benzodiazepine, the result is death.

The news media and television could be saving countless lives every day if they were running non-stop headlines about the dangers of drug mixing, but they are not. They have been bewitched by the myth of the “demon drug” and prefer to run stories inaccurately labeling opioid-related deaths as heroin overdoses instead of accurately reporting them as polydrug poisonings due to drug mixing.

The reason drug mixing is so common is that the current crop of new opioid users simply does not know how dangerous it is.


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Old 12-12-2018, 11:46 PM
 
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After Boosting the Fentanyl Market, Drug Warriors Vainly Promise to Eradicate It
The government can't stop the flow of illegal drugs, but it can always make them more deadly.

https://reason.com/blog/2018/12/05/a...yl-market-drug



The opiate epidemic was designed to kill off "undesirables" they knew from the start it all of this was going to happen.


Don't believe for a minute they didn't know cutting off the pills would push people to heroin and then when heroin demand went up fentanyl would move in.

"Accidental unintended consequences" BS they designed this epidemic to boost support for drug war and all the profit and authoritarianism that goes with it AND to kill off those that were too much a burden on the medical system.
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Old 12-13-2018, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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When a person is dying from cancer that has metastasized in their bones there is no effective painkiller. One can be on the Oxycodone and Fentanyl or Oxycodone and Morphine and still have pain. There is no perfect solution for a bad situation; other than the inevitable death.
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