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Old 01-08-2019, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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Hospitals are in the business of doctors. They are not in the patient business.

Doctors are in the patient business.

Find a good GP to advocate for your father and have the GP assemble a team.

Find a good hospital. I personally like private hospitals.
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Old 01-12-2019, 02:20 PM
 
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I would depend on my PCP to help out with such problems. You have to ask questions and voice your concerns to a doctor that you know and trust, which hopefully would be the PCP--the patient's own doctor--not various hospital staff. Ask the PCP to explain what's going on.
So if I the OP callís the patientís doctor they will definitely get a call back?
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Old 01-12-2019, 03:02 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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So if I the OP callís the patientís doctor they will definitely get a call back?
Probably not, unless they've got medical POA for the parent and the doctor knows that for sure. Otherwise, the doctor can't talk about the patient's health to anyone but the patient.
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Old 01-12-2019, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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Hospitals are in the business of doctors. They are not in the patient business.

Doctors are in the patient business.

Find a good GP to advocate for your father and have the GP assemble a team.

Find a good hospital. I personally like private hospitals.
Hospitals are in the business of their own administrators - you really think docs rule the roost?
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Old 01-12-2019, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Teach an Fhir Bholg
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Well, I'm from "yesteryear," and the changes in private health care are major. Yeah, the technological improvements are great, if you don't die waiting to be able to take advantage of them.

Healthcare is an industry.
Hospitals are factories.
Nurses are the grunt workers.
Doctors are the supervisors.
Sick people are raw material turned into a money-making product called patients.

After all the people I have seen die in major New York City hospitals and in Buffalo, NY...if I could not be sure of home care until death in my own home, I would most certainly commit suicide at my age in order not to die in a hospital factory.
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Old 01-12-2019, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Probably not, unless they've got medical POA for the parent and the doctor knows that for sure. Otherwise, the doctor can't talk about the patient's health to anyone but the patient.
That is not true. A patient can allow a doctor to discuss his medical information with anyone he wishes to have it. A POA is not necessary.
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Old 01-12-2019, 07:15 PM
 
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That is not true. A patient can allow a doctor to discuss his medical information with anyone he wishes to have it. A POA is not necessary.
A nice doctor might talk to you with a patient's verbal permission.

However, when you are in an emergency situation, they may not take the patient's verbal permission.

The more serious the situation is the more likely they will require a POA.
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Old 01-13-2019, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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A nice doctor might talk to you with a patient's verbal permission.

However, when you are in an emergency situation, they may not take the patient's verbal permission.

The more serious the situation is the more likely they will require a POA.
The POA is only required if the patient is unable to speak for himself.

There is this misconception that HIPAA prevents doctors from talking to patients' relatives. That is not true. If someone is in the hospital and the doctor comes in to see a patient all he has to do is ask the patient whether anyone else in the room should leave while medical issues are discussed.

In addition, if someone becomes incapacitated unexpectedly without a POA in place doctors can and do talk to the next of kin.
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Old 01-13-2019, 12:16 PM
 
Location: TX/ Maryland
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You'll get a major rude awakening if you think hospital actually cares.
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Old 01-13-2019, 06:26 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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The POA is only required if the patient is unable to speak for himself.

There is this misconception that HIPAA prevents doctors from talking to patients' relatives. That is not true. If someone is in the hospital and the doctor comes in to see a patient all he has to do is ask the patient whether anyone else in the room should leave while medical issues are discussed.

In addition, if someone becomes incapacitated unexpectedly without a POA in place doctors can and do talk to the next of kin.
Exactly! Heck, DH's doctors discussed his care when the pastor was in the room and when some friends were in as well. We just said, "it's OK for them to be here".
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