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Old Today, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Originally Posted by riaelise View Post
Simply being born black doesn't mean that you'll develop disease and die earlier. A lot of it has to do with lifestyle, socioeconomics, and heck luck. FWIW, an African American man recently died here in Austin and he was 112, I think.

Obesity is a big problem in Blacks, which in turn is a catalyst for other deadly diseases.

Though I expect the disease rates in Whites to rise too because America's waist line as a whole is getting larger.
That is only somewhat true. There are diseases that are more common in one group than another and they are gene related, nothing to do with eating habits. Of course daily habits play a large part in our life expectancy but so does our gene bank. Not to mention, I think we are questioning the Ops statement more than why some people are more prone to certainly diseases.
of course we can all give the story or someone, black, white fat, skinny, etc that lived to be 115 or 100 or whatever, but we are discussing average or expected, not the exception.

 
Old Today, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I think the OP means African people,you know,from the continent of Africa?

I am not sure why some posters are bringing up African American stats?
Two different continents.

In any event,a better comparison would be African American versus African stats.
Or Jamaican versus African stats.

For example, compare Chinese in China to Chinese americans stats,and you would find similar results.
I think you may be right, but the OP needs to come back and clarify this, plus, even if we are talking those in Africa, they do not live longer. He also is talking people who are African not just living in Africa like So. Africa which has a mixture of black and white.
 
Old Today, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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Anecdotal, but I was just talking to some doctors here who had just returned from Africa. They said they found a much lower incidence there of food-borne digestive issues, becase their daily diet is much less sanitized and they eat a lot more food that is spoiled, improperly stored or otherwise contaminated, so their immune systems and resistance are well exercised and able to fight off common bugs.
 
Old Today, 07:11 AM
 
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If you look at the life expectancies of African countries, they are a lot less than the U.S. and Western Europe; often, 20 to 25 years less. So maybe they do not live that long to get cancers which form later in life.
 
Old Today, 07:56 AM
 
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If anyone did even basic research (scary how people state 'facts' with no backing), they'd find that cancer rates are increasing in Africa and poses a significant threat.

Cancer Surpasses Malaria as Top Public Health Threat in Africa


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Africa is known for its diverse cultures, expansive landscapes, dramatic coastlines, luscious forests and exotic wildlife. Much less is known about the continent’s rising cancer epidemic, but it’s all too real. Shockingly, 60 percent more Africans die from cancer today than from malaria.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...=1547733305958
 
Old Today, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County
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People actually living IN Africa probably consume much less processed foods/drinks which could lead to a decrease in certain cancers. Then again, there's a million other things that could kill them that we don't worry about here. As for Africans living in the West, I have no clue what / where you get that idea.
 
Old Today, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Haiku
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First, please cite your source for saying that black people are healthier. What you notice is different from statistical data.
The OP did clearly cite the source: "...I have noticed...". In other words it is only anecdotal.
 
Old Today, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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Not at all true-- People of African descent have much higher rates of sever complications of Diabetes and Hypertension than others and very high rates of asthma and prostate cancer and twice the risk of lung cancer. Sarcoidosis is rare among whites but common in blacks. Infectious diseases account for a larger number of deaths in less developed countries, so fewer people live long enough to develop cancer. https://www.webmd.com/hypertension-h...-blacks-most#1
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That is only somewhat true. There are diseases that are more common in one group than another and they are gene related, nothing to do with eating habits. Of course daily habits play a large part in our life expectancy but so does our gene bank. Not to mention, I think we are questioning the Ops statement more than why some people are more prone to certainly diseases.
of course we can all give the story or someone, black, white fat, skinny, etc that lived to be 115 or 100 or whatever, but we are discussing average or expected, not the exception.
So basically Black people are genetically predisposed to just about every nasty disease/condition out there? Because that is what I gleaned from your post. I just find that hard to believe. I already know that each group has it's own genetic predisposition for particular diseases but come on, simply being born Black doesn't mean you're going to die earlier (or live earlier for that matter).

I also think that this a pot-stirring topic generally.
 
Old Today, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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Socio-economic factors are factored out in the stats. ...and BTW- obesity is a confounding factor in the stats and not an actual "cause" of any disease. Eg-- Diabetics have high rates of MI, and an obese diabetic isn't treating himself properly, so is more likely to have that MI. It isn't the obesity itself..that's just an indication that he isn't following orders.


Also note that what we call a genetic "disease" varies according to the situation. The genes that made it easy to survive on a low calorie diet were a huge advantage in "the jungle" where hunting/gathering was a rough way of life. ...Today, when HoHo's & DingDongs are way too easy to get, those same genes are deleterious. Those are the genes that the people we call "diabetics" today have....Same with Sickle Cell trait-- a big advantage in areas where malaria is common. ..but a disease in areas without malaria.







Very difficult to site cancer stats on Africans: life expectancy in Sub Saharan Africa is only 46 yrs (huge problem with premature death from AIDS.) Cancer is a problem as you age. They don't live long enough to develop cancer.


An interesting bit of history: the notion that "fiber" prevents colon cancer (debunked in recent yrs) dates back to the 19th century when British missionary doctors noted that Africans, whose diet consisted to a great extent on roots crops) tended to have huge BMs, while the Brits, whose diet was much more meat- centered, had smaller volume BMs and also much higher rate of colon cancer--ergo-- fiber MUST be the important factor in preventing colon ca!...They just didn't take life expectancy into consideration. Africans usually died before their 60s- the age when colon ca starts becoming common--before they had the chance to get it.
Obesity may not be an actual "cause" but there's a direct correlation between it and the plethora of health problems that Black Americans have to face. And even if Blacks are predisposed for certain conditions, having a lower body weight and decreased sodium intake can either delay or prevent the onset of said conditions. Socioeconomics also plays a big role despite not being a disease or cause.
 
Old Today, 12:30 PM
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I noticed that people of African descent tend to have "stronger" genes when it comes to not getting certain diseases. Cancer, for e.g, doesn't seem to affect nowhere near as many people in Africa as elsewhere in the world, especially the western world. Even rare diseases which affect Caucasians, don't seem to happen to African people.

Do you find this to be true or not?
Not true....American blacks average lifespan is 4 years less than whites and 9 years less than asians.
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