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Old 03-02-2019, 07:19 AM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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Concise synopsis of the genetic bases for weight gain & obesity. (Blame your parents, not your will-power.)


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Old 03-02-2019, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Central IL
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OP - surely you know that it's no fun at all to have to stop blaming those horribly weak "fatties" and to crow about all that WE do to stay slim and trim! But seriously, people just won't allow themselves to give up these beliefs - they prop us up too much.
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Old 03-02-2019, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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It is certainly true. My aunt had two daughters by her first husband who passed away, he was thin and both daughters have always been thin as well. She later remarried and her second husband was short and heavy, she had one daughter with him, and that daughter has always been overweight, just like her Dad. You’d never guess the youngest daughter was even related to the two older ones.
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Old 03-02-2019, 09:08 AM
 
Location: too far from the sea
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I hope this doesn't give people the impression that they can just eat anything they want. It's not all genetics and if you do have some genetic tendency to gain weight, you have to be aware and stay on top of it.

We never had so many fat people back in the 50s and 60s. Maybe they were eating real food, not fast food. Soda was a treat, not for every day. Few processed foods, it was mostly real food.

Believe what you want, but healthy eating is still healthy eating and that doesn't change.
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Old 03-02-2019, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Middle of the ocean
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It is certainly true. My aunt had two daughters by her first husband who passed away, he was thin and both daughters have always been thin as well. She later remarried and her second husband was short and heavy, she had one daughter with him, and that daughter has always been overweight, just like her Dad. You’d never guess the youngest daughter was even related to the two older ones.
That's me and my sister. Heck, she was more involved in sports than me, and I always ran thinner.
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Old 03-02-2019, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Nantahala National Forest, NC
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OP - surely you know that it's no fun at all to have to stop blaming those horribly weak "fatties" and to crow about all that WE do to stay slim and trim! But seriously, people just won't allow themselves to give up these beliefs - they prop us up too much.

fatties? seriously, you said that??

I take psych meds that have very unfortunate side effects of weight gain.
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Old 03-02-2019, 10:31 AM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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I hope this doesn't give people the impression that they can just eat anything they want. It's not all genetics and if you do have some genetic tendency to gain weight, you have to be aware and stay on top of it.

We never had so many fat people back in the 50s and 60s. Maybe they were eating real food, not fast food. Soda was a treat, not for every day. Few processed foods, it was mostly real food.

Believe what you want, but healthy eating is still healthy eating and that doesn't change.
Very true. Classic example of genetic + environmental factors. Even if one carries the "full figure" genes, if they starve themselves, they won't get fat...But as the author of the article points out-- you can consciously alter your breathing rate down to 10/min instead of the normal, natural 18/min-- but how long can you keep that up? There are natural protective mechanisms that force you to breath 18/min and to have an appetite giving you the drive to eat.


Food has never been so inexpensive and easy to get as it is now-- and the "experts" are all telling us to eat the wrong stuff (grains/carbs).
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Old 03-02-2019, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Wine Country
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Very true. Classic example of genetic + environmental factors. Even if one carries the "full figure" genes, if they starve themselves, they won't get fat...But as the author of the article points out-- you can consciously alter your breathing rate down to 10/min instead of the normal, natural 18/min-- but how long can you keep that up? There are natural protective mechanisms that force you to breath 18/min and to have an appetite giving you the drive to eat.


Food has never been so inexpensive and easy to get as it is now-- and the "experts" are all telling us to eat the wrong stuff (grains/carbs).
Not necessarily. Whole grains have nutrients and fiber. Fiber is the best thing you can eat. Now baked goods are not good for anyone unless its a sprouted wheat bread that is minimally processed. Grains like bulgar, faro, quinoa, oats, black and wild rice provide lots of nutrients and fiber.

What needs to be avoided are fast foods, fried foods, prepackaged boxed foods. Also, soda, candy, and other sugar laden foods. And people need to move.

Obesity may be genetic but food choices and a sedentary lifestyle are the main reason people become obese and stay.

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Old 03-02-2019, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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I hope this doesn't give people the impression that they can just eat anything they want. It's not all genetics and if you do have some genetic tendency to gain weight, you have to be aware and stay on top of it.

We never had so many fat people back in the 50s and 60s. Maybe they were eating real food, not fast food. Soda was a treat, not for every day. Few processed foods, it was mostly real food.

Believe what you want, but healthy eating is still healthy eating and that doesn't change.
My grandfather was always fat; my mother was thin, until she wasn’t and became fat as an adult and battled it all the rest of her life; I got the fat “gene” and have battled this all my life. I knew of really fat girls in H.S. And was thankful that I was not as fat as they. There have always been fat people. What I am giving you is anecdotal evidence, which is to let you know there have always been fat people. And people tended to get fatter as a general rule as they aged.

There was little concept of fitness, although people did calisthenics and some guys did weightlifting. Old people were not encouraged to work out, as we are today.

I lived through the 1950s. Don’t tell me about how we ate! We had access to a variety of food, for sure. But if you revisit an old cookbook, you will see the starchy casseroles, the canned veggies, the rich desserts, the sweet “salads.” In my family we did not constantly snack, but I think other families probably had free access to potato chips and cookies.

I do know that young kids played outside and had more time to do so. Kids today have homework from a young age. And the world does not seem safe to parents. They tend to schedule playdates. They might not allow them to run freely around the neighborhood. So kids, tethered to their electronics might not be as active as kids used to be.

I suspect environmental factors have exacerbated the tendency of some of us to gain weight. I deplore the feeding of juice to young children. I hate the omnipresence of sweeteners in everything. But you cannot point to the 1950s as being some sort of magic time when everyone was healthy and slim. I know it was not that way.
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Old 03-02-2019, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Central IL
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OP - surely you know that it's no fun at all to have to stop blaming those horribly weak "fatties" and to crow about all that WE do to stay slim and trim! But seriously, people just won't allow themselves to give up these beliefs - they prop us up too much.
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fatties? seriously, you said that??

I take psych meds that have very unfortunate side effects of weight gain.
Sorry you didn't get the purpose of my ""....I didn't use the proper emoticon for sarcasm apparently. But, in all fairness you're blaming something else for your issues - that's another big no-no for most folks who have perfect control of their genes and metabolism.
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