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Old 03-10-2019, 09:37 PM
 
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Sadly, this is the future.

Hospitals are trying to make more money by having no doctors in their ICU at night. Instead they hire 1 doc at a reduced rate who monitors hundreds of patients at multiple ICUs via the internet. When something goes south, he isn't in-house so he has to relay the news by video link.

Telehealth has its place if you are talking about a clinic location for routine illnesses or for stuff like dermatology or even psychiatry. But it has no business being in an ICU.
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Old 03-11-2019, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ <-> Silicon Valley, CA
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I expect no less -- and no more -- from Kaiser.

Though I sometimes wonder if people realize what they're getting into with an HMO. With the dumbing-down of the populace, probably not.
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Old 03-11-2019, 01:18 PM
 
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This is truly disgusting!
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Old 03-11-2019, 03:11 PM
 
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While this certainly isn't ideal, I don't think it's quite as horrible as people seem to believe. He and his family had been told that he was dying prior to this. It wasn't a surprise. The doctor was pretty much repeating what they had already been told. At least this is what was said on a news story I saw about this yesterday.
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Old 03-11-2019, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ <-> Silicon Valley, CA
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While this certainly isn't ideal, I don't think it's quite as horrible as people seem to believe. He and his family had been told that he was dying prior to this. It wasn't a surprise. The doctor was pretty much repeating what they had already been told. At least this is what was said on a news story I saw about this yesterday.
If there was a need to repeat exactly what had already been told to the pt and family, what was that need and why have a robot do it?

And why do it when the pt's spouse wasn't there to comfort him? That's bad practice even with a human doctor onsite.

Obviously someone should have told the family present to get the mother back to the hospital.
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Old 03-11-2019, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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If there was a need to repeat exactly what had already been told to the pt and family, what was that need and why have a robot do it?

And why do it when the pt's spouse wasn't there to comfort him? That's bad practice even with a human doctor onsite.

Obviously someone should have told the family present to get the mother back to the hospital.
A doctor spoke with them. It wasn't a robot.
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Old 03-11-2019, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ <-> Silicon Valley, CA
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A doctor spoke with them. It wasn't a robot.

Incorrect. It is, in fact, a robot. A telepresence robot.

https://telepresencerobots.com/robot...health-rp-vita

The robot has a screen with two-way link to a remote physician but that doesn't obviate the fact that it's a robot.

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Old 03-12-2019, 12:30 AM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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The physician is human. He's not a robot.
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Old 03-12-2019, 05:27 AM
 
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The physician is human. He's not a robot.
Pretty sure it says "IROBOT" on the picture above your post...

And the point is this is an incredibly impersonal way to deliver devastating news devoid of human contact.....same as phoning it in which should be a last resort...
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Old 03-12-2019, 03:39 PM
 
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If there was a need to repeat exactly what had already been told to the pt and family, what was that need and why have a robot do it?

And why do it when the pt's spouse wasn't there to comfort him? That's bad practice even with a human doctor onsite.

Obviously someone should have told the family present to get the mother back to the hospital.
His children and (I believe) grand daughter were there. He wasn't alone. The impression I got was that they kept asking and hoping for a different answer.

And as others have said, it was not a robot. My daughter was in the ER last year. There was a specialist they teleconferenced in (wheeled in a computer) and we talked to her and she to us and my daughter. It was a reciprocal conversation. We were able to ask questions and have them answered. I had no problems with our experience and appreciated that it was an option rather than waiting for hours in the ER for a specialist to appear in person.
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