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Old Yesterday, 02:25 AM
 
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Carbs are cheap, easy to get but man I eat a bowl of pasta and the scale spins like a roulette wheel.
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Old Yesterday, 02:28 AM
 
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What is the difference between carbs and starches!
Fruit and vegetables contain carbohydrates but starches are generally simpler such as potatoes, rice, bread, pasta.
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Old Yesterday, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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Carbs are cheap, easy to get but man I eat a bowl of pasta and the scale spins like a roulette wheel.
A "bowl of pasta" is probably two cups. The serving size is 1 cup. Also you didn't mention whether there are sauces on it. I doubt that the next day you actually gained anything and if you did, it was water. The bathroom takes care of that. It definitely isn't fat and fat gain is all that matters to me at least.
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Old Yesterday, 11:23 AM
 
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Food is only 3 categories- fats, protein and carbohydrates. So it's not the carbs per se that are bad, but the TYPE of carbohydrate.


Starches are bad- even whole wheat- and even if not gluten free.....that means potatoes, rice, grain, beans, peas, peanuts, breads, corn, etc.


Sugar is also bad- table sugar, honey, maple syrup, agave, corn syrup, etc.


Sugar has been shown to affect the brain.


Dairy also is not the best- tho aged cheeses are suppose to be OK. Children with autism have shown improvement with a dairy and gluten free diet.


Most fruits are a No-No. Never drink fruit juice- it is pure sugar. Fructose is a problem with most ppl. Again it can affect the brain and many ppl get diarrhea from fruit. It can exacerbate fungal infections. Some fruits are OK in small amounts- like melons, cranberries, etc.


https://www.healthline.com/nutrition...r-you#section3


https://healthyeating.sfgate.com/bad...ally-1995.html


https://www.healthline.com/nutrition...ealth#section6


Many so called healthy foods are not healthy or good for you. It is better to have an oz of 80% chocolate, than a baked potato or some pasta! Not to say to have dinner of just chocolate.... Having carbs are ok in very small amounts. Save the pasta and breads, etc for a special occasion: holidays, or your birthday at an Italian restaurant, or an upcoming wedding, etc.


Unfortunately, eating well and for good health is expensive- grow some if you can. Meat should be the size of a deck of cards, good fats only (olive and avocado oils are best), NO soy or corn oils!!, and plenty of simple carbs: lettuce and salad makings, cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage, tomatoes, asparagus, onions, garlic, all kinds of greens, green beans are OK (no dried beans: chili, kidney, navy, etc), squash of all kinds, sweet potatoes are OK and are used in place of white potato in soups and stews, etc.


Starches are a staple in meals for a reason. They are cheap...there is no other reason to eat them.... follow the government approved food pyramid that pushes carbs like bread, potatoes, grains and rice, and you will get sick with chronic illnesses and get fat. look what happening today with the increase in cancer, and diabetes. They are talking about changing it to a Mediterranean style diet but the government doesn't move too fast....
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Old Yesterday, 11:37 AM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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What is the difference between carbs and starches! What foods contain carbs and which foods contain starches I need to know the difference.

Starches are carbohydrates. Starches make up the bulk of the carbs in foods like grains and root vegetables. Anything made from flour, like bread, cearea, cake, pastries, crackers and the like are high in starch. Other grain foods, like corn, oats, hummus are also high in starches. Root vegetables like potatoes, sweet potatoes, turnips, and carrots are high in starches.

Other carbohydrates are simple sugars and fiber.

If you are avoiding carbs, you must include starches.

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And do both of these make you fat
Too many calories makes you fat. Too much of any macronutrient, whether carbs, fat, or protein, or any combination of the above, will make you fat.

The benefit to reducing carbs is modulating blood sugar, maintaining normal liver function and hormonal balances, and many say, controlling appetite which can affect your ability to lose weight.
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Old Yesterday, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Parkridge, Alief 77082
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Starches are carbohydrates. Starches make up the bulk of the carbs in foods like grains and root vegetables. Anything made from flour, like bread, cearea, cake, pastries, crackers and the like are high in starch. Other grain foods, like corn, oats, hummus are also high in starches. Root vegetables like potatoes, sweet potatoes, turnips, and carrots are high in starches.

Other carbohydrates are simple sugars and fiber.

If you are avoiding carbs, you must include starches.



Too many calories makes you fat. Too much of any macronutrient, whether carbs, fat, or protein, or any combination of the above, will make you fat.

The benefit to reducing carbs is modulating blood sugar, maintaining normal liver function and hormonal balances, and many say, controlling appetite which can affect your ability to lose weight.
What do you mean by maintaining normal liver function and hormonal balances

That means not drinking any alcohol at all right?
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Old Yesterday, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Wine Country
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Demonizing any food group is never a good idea. Common sense dictates that we should eat minimally processed foods - as in cook it yourself and stay away from prepackaged stuff. And of course stay clear of fast foods and junk foods.

Carbs are not the enemy. Starches are not the enemy. Overeating processed foods is the enemy.
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Old Yesterday, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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Food is only 3 categories- fats, protein and carbohydrates. So it's not the carbs per se that are bad, but the TYPE of carbohydrate.


Starches are bad- even whole wheat- and even if not gluten free.....that means potatoes, rice, grain, beans, peas, peanuts, breads, corn, etc.


Sugar is also bad- table sugar, honey, maple syrup, agave, corn syrup, etc.


Sugar has been shown to affect the brain.


Dairy also is not the best- tho aged cheeses are suppose to be OK. Children with autism have shown improvement with a dairy and gluten free diet.


Most fruits are a No-No. Never drink fruit juice- it is pure sugar. Fructose is a problem with most ppl. Again it can affect the brain and many ppl get diarrhea from fruit. It can exacerbate fungal infections. Some fruits are OK in small amounts- like melons, cranberries, etc.


https://www.healthline.com/nutrition...r-you#section3


https://healthyeating.sfgate.com/bad...ally-1995.html


https://www.healthline.com/nutrition...ealth#section6


Many so called healthy foods are not healthy or good for you. It is better to have an oz of 80% chocolate, than a baked potato or some pasta! Not to say to have dinner of just chocolate.... Having carbs are ok in very small amounts. Save the pasta and breads, etc for a special occasion: holidays, or your birthday at an Italian restaurant, or an upcoming wedding, etc.


Unfortunately, eating well and for good health is expensive- grow some if you can. Meat should be the size of a deck of cards, good fats only (olive and avocado oils are best), NO soy or corn oils!!, and plenty of simple carbs: lettuce and salad makings, cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage, tomatoes, asparagus, onions, garlic, all kinds of greens, green beans are OK (no dried beans: chili, kidney, navy, etc), squash of all kinds, sweet potatoes are OK and are used in place of white potato in soups and stews, etc.


Starches are a staple in meals for a reason. They are cheap...there is no other reason to eat them.... follow the government approved food pyramid that pushes carbs like bread, potatoes, grains and rice, and you will get sick with chronic illnesses and get fat. look what happening today with the increase in cancer, and diabetes. They are talking about changing it to a Mediterranean style diet but the government doesn't move too fast....
Wow, what an unnecessarily limited, totally unappealing diet. That's not "eating well". Maybe that's some medically prescribed diet?? I mean, seriously, people are supposed to eat like that?? No wonder people resist trying to eat healthy...would you seriously want to eat like that until you die? No thank you! If I really did think that was the only way to be healthy and lose weight, I'd still be fat right now. Thankfully, I've found out that I don't have to eat like that. And my health is fine, and my weight is fine too. I can easily cherry pick links that show that there's nothing wrong with eating starchy foods. In moderation.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/exper...l?iref=24hours

https://www.livestrong.com/article/5...-bad-starches/

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/c...-in-your-diet/

https://chriskresser.com/is-starch-a...nt-or-a-toxin/ There are many societies that have a high carb diet and THEY'RE NOT FAT OR HAVE THE HEALTH PROBLEMS AMERICANS HAVE.

These links are for starters...



Let's drop the "bad" appellation here. Everything can be enjoyed, even big "bad" ol' sugar, in moderation.

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Old Yesterday, 01:14 PM
 
Location: McAllen, TX
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follow the government approved food pyramid that pushes carbs like bread, potatoes, grains and rice, and you will get sick with chronic illnesses and get fat. look what happening today with the increase in cancer, and diabetes.
I agree with THIS 100%. The proof is in the pudding no matter how much you say otherwise. Look around, see any fat people? and it IS BAD, it's not good, therefore it is BAD and if it is then it should be demonized.
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Old Yesterday, 01:31 PM
 
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Too many calories makes you fat. Too much of any macronutrient, whether carbs, fat, or protein, or any combination of the above, will make you fat.

The benefit to reducing carbs is modulating blood sugar, maintaining normal liver function and hormonal balances, and many say, controlling appetite which can affect your ability to lose weight.
Too many carbohydrate make you fat (along with calories) because your body converts them to sugar, and therefore releases insulin. Insulin makes you fat.


https://idmprogram.com/insulin-cause...al-obesity-iv/


https://www.healthline.com/nutrition...mones#section4
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