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Old 04-16-2019, 08:30 PM
 
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The Diagnosis Is Alzheimer’s. But That’s Probably Not the Only Problem.
Most people with dementia have a number of brain abnormalities, not just Alzheimer’s disease. The finding is forcing scientists to rethink the search for treatments.

By Gina Kolata

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/08/h...ia-stroke.html

https://smartmediamagazine.com/the-d...-only-problem/
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Old 04-16-2019, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Tangles and amyloid plaques are mentioned in both of the links...and I'm banking of my grape seed extract to reduce/eliminate these. Hope I'm on track. I've posted on what I do in Alt Med and also on some other Alz threads here.
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Old 04-16-2019, 09:31 PM
 
Location: South Australia
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As far as I'm aware, the only certain way to properly diagnose Alzheimer's disease is by autopsy. In reality they can be pretty sure.

I've seen people die with Alzheimer's.I find the thought rather comforting.It's called 'the long goodbye', because the sufferer slowly disappears. The perception I have is that the sufferer doesn't notice all that much.It's those around who suffer.


In my family, the men tend to develop atherosclerosis (hardening of the arteries) in their mid 70's. Due to the miracle of modern geriatric medicine, my dad had it for over 10 years before he died. We watched him die by inches, sometimes aware what was happening, sometime not, and just confused and distressed.

I didn't see him for the last year of his life; he didn't know me, and was really nasty. I would go home and cry.--hence my attitude about leaving when I begin to develop dementia.
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Old 04-16-2019, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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As far as I'm aware, the only certain way to properly diagnose Alzheimer's disease is by autopsy. In reality they can be pretty sure.

I've seen people die with Alzheimer's.I find the thought rather comforting.It's called 'the long goodbye', because the sufferer slowly disappears. The perception I have is that the sufferer doesn't notice all that much.It's those around who suffer.


In my family, the men tend to develop atherosclerosis (hardening of the arteries) in their mid 70's. Due to the miracle of modern geriatric medicine, my dad had it for over 10 years before he died. We watched him die by inches, sometimes aware what was happening, sometime not, and just confused and distressed.

I didn't see him for the last year of his life; he didn't know me, and was really nasty. I would go home and cry.--hence my attitude about leaving when I begin to develop dementia.
Well, if there is something that is touted as prevention -- why not, hence what I have been taking for years for my general health and it's been good for me as I approach 81.
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Old 04-16-2019, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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As far as I'm aware, the only certain way to properly diagnose Alzheimer's disease is by autopsy. In reality they can be pretty sure.

I've seen people die with Alzheimer's.I find the thought rather comforting.It's called 'the long goodbye', because the sufferer slowly disappears. The perception I have is that the sufferer doesn't notice all that much.It's those around who suffer.


In my family, the men tend to develop atherosclerosis (hardening of the arteries) in their mid 70's. Due to the miracle of modern geriatric medicine, my dad had it for over 10 years before he died. We watched him die by inches, sometimes aware what was happening, sometime not, and just confused and distressed.

I didn't see him for the last year of his life; he didn't know me, and was really nasty. I would go home and cry.--hence my attitude about leaving when I begin to develop dementia.
Actually, there is a point where people understand full well what is happening to them. If they’re lucky, it doesn’t last for long.

It’s a terrible thing.
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Old 04-17-2019, 10:20 AM
 
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In case it's of interest to some here

The Diagnosis Is Alzheimer’s. But That’s Probably Not the Only Problem.
Most people with dementia have a number of brain abnormalities, not just Alzheimer’s disease. The finding is forcing scientists to rethink the search for treatments.

By Gina Kolata

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/08/h...ia-stroke.html

https://smartmediamagazine.com/the-d...-only-problem/
What's the difference? They don't have any idea how to make drugs for dementia. The causes usually include chronic inflammation, which is typically caused by the modern lifestyle.

There is no chronic disease that medical science has found a really good drug for. There is no reason to think they ever will, no matter how much money they keep spending, no matter what they keep promising.
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Old 04-17-2019, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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What's the difference? They don't have any idea how to make drugs for dementia. The causes usually include chronic inflammation, which is typically caused by the modern lifestyle.

There is no chronic disease that medical science has found a really good drug for. There is no reason to think they ever will, no matter how much money they keep spending, no matter what they keep promising.
Pharma won't go with the grape SEED for the inflammation issue, there is no money in the SEED for them.

You can do a lot of searches and come up with reduction of inflammation and the SEED. And such a miniscule number of people know about the SEED.
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Old 04-17-2019, 01:03 PM
 
Location: South Florida
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Tangles and amyloid plaques are mentioned in both of the links...and I'm banking of my grape seed extract to reduce/eliminate these. Hope I'm on track. I've posted on what I do in Alt Med and also on some other Alz threads here.
They are mentioned in both links because they are links to the same article, just in different publications. It is rather ironic that you came here to plug "the SEED" and didn't realize you had just read the same article twice.
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