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Old 06-11-2019, 03:14 PM
 
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I realize that vaccines are a controversial topic, but I am specifically looking for personal experiences with vaccination, not people’s political views or what they think everyone should do or what they have heard 2nd or 3rd hand.

I am asking because I experienced the first symptoms of a serious autoimmune disorder the day after I got a flu shot three years ago at the age of 52. Prior to this I had had many vaccinations (some for foreign travel) with no problems at all. However, for the last three years I have been afraid to have any.

I cannot prove that the vaccination brought on the autoimmune disease, but for me the timing was highly suspicious. Also, the official line on the flu shot is that it is safe for the general public, but that in rare instances it might trigger or worsen autoimmune conditions in those who are susceptible.

I am also asking because my husband and I love exotic travel and are considering a trip to Madagascar. But that would mean I need a vaccination.... I will go to a travel physician and inquire, but in the meantime...

Is there anyone here who came down with an autoimmune disease right after a vaccination?

Also, if you do have an autoimmune disease but nonetheless still get flu shots and immunizations with no problem, please post that too.

Yes, I realize this is not a scientific poll, but I am interested nonetheless. Also, please your experience only ...
Have you had blood test for autoimmune disease.
I thought I had that type of problem and came back negative.
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Old 06-11-2019, 05:19 PM
 
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Have you had blood test for autoimmune disease.
I thought I had that type of problem and came back negative.
I have an official diagnosis, although a blood test was not involved. I also was prescribed an immunosuppressant medication which was quite effective in my case (side effects notwithstanding). It put me in total remission and actually allowed me to regain much (but not all) of my hearing in the less damaged ear. (The badly damage ear never recovered.)

Also, the onset of the hearing loss was not at all subtle. Au contraire, it was panic-inducing.
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:03 PM
 
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Well, I once had an auto-immune disease - Guillain-Barre - attributed to a case of the flu, in a year when I did NOT get a flu shot. No one can prove that's why I got it, but the timing was highly suspicious.

Made a believer in flu shots out of me. Nothing like nearly dying to change your perspective on whether it's worth while to reduce your chances of getting the flu. I'm pretty religious about getting them now.
Interesting. some 20+ years ago I too had Guillain-Barre, but not at all from a flu shot. I have not had a flu shot since, as it’s completely contraindicated. You’re saying that you get the annual flu shot to prevent a Guillain-Barre recurrence? This is entirely contrary to everything medical professionals have told me.
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:15 PM
 
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Except for the fact that vaccines trigger an immune response and water does not.
So does the flu. So what? She didn't get an autoimmune disease from vaccines as a kid right?

ANYTHING can trigger an immune response... peanuts, pollen, latex.
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Old 06-11-2019, 09:07 PM
 
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Interesting. some 20+ years ago I too had Guillain-Barre, but not at all from a flu shot. I have not had a flu shot since, as it’s completely contraindicated. You’re saying that you get the annual flu shot to prevent a Guillain-Barre recurrence? This is entirely contrary to everything medical professionals have told me.
No, I'm saying that I get the flu shot to reduce my chances of getting the flu. Influenza is a known precursor of G-B. (Not the only one.) G-B recurrence is vanishingly rare. The chances of getting seriously ill as a consequence of influenza are somewhat greater than having a recurrence of G-B, especially for older people, as I am now. So, I play the odds.

I am in occasional contact with the neurologist who diagnosed me. He's always told me that there is no clear evidence that people who have had G-B should avoid flu shots or other immunizations. There's an obvious concern, but - no clear evidence.

You are clearly making a different call.

I had G-B in 1975, when I was 28. Note that this was before the upswing in G-B occurrences following the swine flu vaccine. And - anecdata - the docs at the hospitals where I was treated were saying that they had never seen it at all in 20 years of practice (I was in fact the object of quite a lot of curiosity and strange doctor visits), but I was the second person in six months to be admitted with it at my initial hospital, and there were three of us in the rehab hospital at the same time, with another being admitted as I was being discharged. Make of that what you will - me, I think G-B might have been on the upswing before the issues with the swine flu vaccine in 1976. With such a rare disease whose cause remains so mysterious, I think there are few things which can be said for certain about its causation.

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Old 06-12-2019, 05:45 AM
 
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Try getting the flu vaccine that isnt made in eggs. That egg allergy can cause all sorts of reactions. Ask for the other flu vaccine.
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Old 06-12-2019, 06:27 AM
 
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You are totally right about people wanting a reason for things. Actually, a couple of days before the onset of symptoms (the day before the flu shot), we had arrived home from our first ever trip to Japan. I know was dealing with massive jet lag. I also ate a lot of strange things in Japan, including probably a lot of soy. I noticed that when I added soy beans to my diet back in the fall, I started hearing more ear “pinging” (tinnitus that sounds like someone is plucking a tiny string in my ear) without actually losing any more hearing.

So, I have actually been thinking it was maybe the flu shot or the 12 hour jet lag or all the soy products, or some combo of the above. Or it was just random.

And, yes, although I loved it, now I’m also afraid to go back to Japan.
Could be just a dirty water on the plane if you have used their ice cubes!
https://www.businessinsider.com/shou...-plane-2017-12

Even hot tea and coffee on the plane should be off limits- the water never comes to a boiling point and persistent parasites and bacteria could survive!

What we call a” flu shot” is being made by different manufacturers, some ingredients vary.
The same people who carefully read all ingredients on the food label they are buying never bother to check the flu vaccine ingredients. The vaccine goes directly into a blood stream bypassing a natural pathway ( nose, throat, mucus membranes which designed by nature to initiate the first immune system response)
So if you think you could be immune compromised- be careful.

I have incurred a serious chronic health issue after an update on tetanus shot- was hoping for a lesser of the evils- did not work out, did not report to a vaccine damage fund as it was a gradual decline and I was hoping it would go away...
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/dta...t-vaccine.html

Flu vaccine ingredients. And the disclaimer below
https://www.learntherisk.org/wp-cont...-1024x1024.png
This is a pro-vaccine site, listing ingredients, could not find ingredients on vaccine manufacturers website
http://vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vaccine-ingredients

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-wor...ss-studies.htm

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Old 06-12-2019, 06:28 AM
 
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My wife has Sjogrens and she still gets her annual flu sho as well as getting the Shingrix vaccine last year. No adverse reactions that I’m aware of to any of the vaccinations. She has enough problems just dealing with the Sjogrens and her other issues.
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Old 06-12-2019, 06:36 AM
 
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Both my husband and adult daughter have thyroid disease; opposite forms of it. Genetic? Hubs doesn't have adverse reactions to vaccines (flu, pneumonia, and shingles). They just don't seem to be effective for him. Daughter does not get vaccinated.
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Old 06-12-2019, 08:09 AM
 
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No, I'm saying that I get the flu shot to reduce my chances of getting the flu. Influenza is a known precursor of G-B. (Not the only one.) G-B recurrence is vanishingly rare. The chances of getting seriously ill as a consequence of influenza are somewhat greater than having a recurrence of G-B, especially for older people, as I am now. So, I play the odds.

I am in occasional contact with the neurologist who diagnosed me. He's always told me that there is no clear evidence that people who have had G-B should avoid flu shots or other immunizations. There's an obvious concern, but - no clear evidence.

You are clearly making a different call.

I had G-B in 1975, when I was 28. Note that this was before the upswing in G-B occurrences following the swine flu vaccine. And - anecdata - the docs at the hospitals where I was treated were saying that they had never seen it at all in 20 years of practice (I was in fact the object of quite a lot of curiosity and strange doctor visits), but I was the second person in six months to be admitted with it at my initial hospital, and there were three of us in the rehab hospital at the same time, with another being admitted as I was being discharged. Make of that what you will - me, I think G-B might have been on the upswing before the issues with the swine flu vaccine in 1976. With such a rare disease whose cause remains so mysterious, I think there are few things which can be said for certain about its causation.
All interesting! My son had GBS as well, the doctors said it triggered from a cold. Weird thing is that in college, I had a terrible reaction to the swine flu vaccine and never took a vaccine since. I've always wondered if that somehow epigenetically changed my eggs - LOL - that will never be studied.

He also was quite the center of attraction because it's so rare. We were very lucky that our family doctor recognized what it was and sent us straight to the ER. Several physicians and specialists came to see what GBS looked like.
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