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Old 06-12-2019, 07:15 PM
 
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Some people are juggling so many problems that they can't even entertain the stress of smoking cessation.
Smoking is causing them many more problems. Having to go outside frequently at work, for example. Hearing complaints from nonsmokers. Causing possible future diseases. The expense of buying cigarettes.

Anyone with any sense would quit. It's so obvious.

 
Old 06-12-2019, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Smoking helps some people process anger and fear. Not recommending it - but it helps some people cope.
Yes, it does.
 
Old 06-12-2019, 07:17 PM
 
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Exactly when were these days when there weren’t many non smokers?

There has never been a time in US history when the total percentage of smokers was much over 40%
In certain environments there was. For example, in bars (the two addictions being related). About 30 years back it seemed like everyone smoked there. Casinos: there weren't that many back then but the few that existed were full of smokers.
 
Old 06-12-2019, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Smoking is causing them many more problems. Having to go outside frequently at work, for example. Hearing complaints from nonsmokers. Causing possible future diseases. The expense of buying cigarettes.

Anyone with any sense would quit. It's so obvious.
That's not even remotely close. My son works outside, and some of the employees smoke. They don't stand next to a nonsmoker and light up. That's pretty easy for them to do. Not everyone works in an office.
 
Old 06-12-2019, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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Smoking is causing them many more problems. Having to go outside frequently at work, for example. Hearing complaints from nonsmokers. Causing possible future diseases. The expense of buying cigarettes.

Anyone with any sense would quit. It's so obvious.
You might as well ask why people start shooting heroin. It's sooooooooooooooo obvious.

As a (past) research psychologist you of all people should know that people are not always, or even often, rational. Do you think only children have that excuse? This is an incredibly naiver perspective you are taking - and you pick a vulnerable population knowing they have the sympathy of few.

Sorry, I have a great deal of empathy for smokers though I do hope they'll eventually be successful in quitting. My berating them will do absolutely nothing to make them quit. That's not how you get alcoholics or heroin addicts to quit either...but be my guest. You'll get lots of agreement about how bad smokers are...perhaps that is your primary motivation in starting such a tired thread.

Please, just don't pretend you're really asking people what they think in an attempt to educate yourself when it is clear you're just refuting any statement contrary to yours. And don't pretend you're educating smokers either.
 
Old 06-12-2019, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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Why did you START smoking? Did you start before the 1964 Surgeon General's report? Before the '50's when the first major studies started coming out? Even before that, a good number of people thought it was unhealthy.

Why do you, just because you quit before others did, now get to denigrate smokers? How hypocritical can you be? YOU had the willpower to stop so why can't everyone? Why didn't you have the willpower to not start? Oh, there was the tiniest doubt that it caused cancer? Copout is what I say.
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I was a child. I think that is a valid excuse.

Now everyone knows more about it, and now everyone knows it bothers nonsmokers.
So just how old were you when you started and stopped and what were those dates? Just in round years, of course.
 
Old 06-12-2019, 08:58 PM
 
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Exactly when were these days when there weren’t many non smokers?

There has never been a time in US history when the total percentage of smokers was much over 40%
I've seen articles that stated 50% of the adult US population smoked in the 50s. I've seen that it was as much as 80% in the UK. I do think there was a time in the US when more than half of adults smoked socially or recreationally, maybe not a pack or two a day, but during certain situations.
 
Old 06-12-2019, 11:38 PM
 
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Ok well it seemed like it was almost every adult. It has gone down a to about 15% now.
Im not sure where you are getting that figure, but I can tell you, as an FMC for a large chain gas station/ convenience store thru out the midwest...cigarettes are our #1 top selling item, at nearly every location we have.
 
Old 06-12-2019, 11:58 PM
 
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you holier than thou social justice warriors make me want to start smoking. There are bigger fish to fry than this. leave people be. Smoking is the last thing you need to be worrying about. Get it? go save someone else who needs saving. Say like, hmmmm, well, take your pick: homeless, abused, harmed.......... stop worrying about the wrong things for chrissakes! We can never be as pure as you ......think you are.
 
Old 06-13-2019, 12:20 AM
 
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What is the best possible ways to stop smoking?
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