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Old 07-30-2019, 06:14 PM
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Location: colorado springs, CO
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There are some folks who hate to think that older people might be *gasp!* having sex.
LOL; I'm 51 ... better go refresh my memory!
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Old 07-30-2019, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Wyoming
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Viagra and the like used to cost $10-$12 for the most potent pills, and that's when it was something new back in the mid 90s. Now it's closer to $60 per pill! That's ridiculous! My insurance would also pay for a few pills per month 20 years ago, something like 3 or 4. I'd get the most potent ones and cut them in half.

Now my insurance -- Medicare and Medicare supplement -- doesn't pay for any of them. Dang! I'm at the age most of us need them! Ah, but there's good news. I get mine through a Canadian pharmacy. They're not Viagra or Cialis but knock-offs; they come from the far east and cost about $1.20 per pill by the time I get them. I order ~100 at a time for the cost of TWO similar name-brand pills.

I've been getting these knock-offs for nearly 20 years now. They work just as well as the name-brand but cost about 2% as much. I don't know if they're 100% legal to have shipped to the U.S., but with the price difference I chance it. So far I've never had a problem. If you're interested, check the legality and any possible fines if they are not legal to import, then make your own decision.
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Old 07-31-2019, 07:49 AM
 
Location: West Coast
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Viagra and the like used to cost $10-$12 for the most potent pills, and that's when it was something new back in the mid 90s. Now it's closer to $60 per pill! That's ridiculous! My insurance would also pay for a few pills per month 20 years ago, something like 3 or 4. I'd get the most potent ones and cut them in half.

Now my insurance -- Medicare and Medicare supplement -- doesn't pay for any of them. Dang! I'm at the age most of us need them! Ah, but there's good news. I get mine through a Canadian pharmacy. They're not Viagra or Cialis but knock-offs; they come from the far east and cost about $1.20 per pill by the time I get them. I order ~100 at a time for the cost of TWO similar name-brand pills.

I've been getting these knock-offs for nearly 20 years now. They work just as well as the name-brand but cost about 2% as much. I don't know if they're 100% legal to have shipped to the U.S., but with the price difference I chance it. So far I've never had a problem. If you're interested, check the legality and any possible fines if they are not legal to import, then make your own decision.
But make sure it's a real Canadian pharmacy and not some scammer putting who knows what into those pills.
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Old 07-31-2019, 08:50 AM
 
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Inability to obtain an erection or to sustain an erection sufficient for intercourse is erectile dysfunction (= ED).

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Once again, we see a disease partially named for profit. The marketing angle is obvious....if you can't do something which is "normal" for 12-40 year olds (people in their reproductive years), then you must have a "dis ease". Something is wrong with you!

But, again, who said (the Lord? Darwin?) that someone over 55 should be able to sustain? Why would nature have given this power to us? Or, is it something "social" and programmed that we WISH to continue and therefore name it a "dis ease"?

Most women also have big differences by that age which makes sex vastly less interesting. Do they also have this "dis ease"? Or is our culture just pushing us never to really grow up?

There are vast numbers of classified diseases today that have been made up for marketing purposes.

This is not to say that there are not real problems with some younger people...and the the other reasons (bad diet, poor health) don't make it so plumbing works differently. But the "judgement" of whether it is a "negative condition" seems more societal....

Just for kicks, what age do the "experts" feel that a man and woman should be able to enjoy "natural" intercourse regularly to?

I think so much of our existence is media and commercially informed.....you can find articles saying "yes, you should be able to blah blah blah". Dig deeper and perhaps the writer is paid by the makers of certain drugs...or, at minimum, paid for click bait.

I wonder what the inability for me to work 10 hours on a hot roof is called? After all, I could do it for decades and now I can't!
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Old 07-31-2019, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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I find it ironic that women are giving medical advice under the premise that googling stuff makes them an expert on male sexuality.
I really hope you do not think that I am doing this. I'm basing my comments on my relationship with a 60 year old man, along with all of the medical concerns that he has, as well as a rather extensive education on sexuality and relationship skills. How many classes and workshops and discussions and conventions that relate to these subjects have you attended in the last 5 years? I've attended many. I promise that, while I do believe that Google is a very helpful source of information, my comments are based on far more than that.

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I would never discourage him from seeing a doctor since they are qualified to determine if it’s physical or an anxiety issue which is fairly common in situations similar to the one experienced by the original poster.
I am not discouraging him from seeing a doctor. He SHOULD see one. For prostate checks, well health exams, blood work, and STI checks. And while he's there, it cannot hurt to mention that he has this concern. His doctor can consult with him on any sensible options. Personally, I think that an issue of this severity (mild in my opinion) should not necessitate the use of drugs, which can have troublesome side effects and possibly interact badly with other medications. But that's between the dude and his doctor. What I do not suggest, is doing a Google search for some kind of foreign pharmacy knock offs and hoping you've managed to Google enough accurate data on interactions and side effects to function as your own doctor + pharmacist.

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Once again, we see a disease partially named for profit. The marketing angle is obvious....if you can't do something which is "normal" for 12-40 year olds (people in their reproductive years), then you must have a "dis ease". Something is wrong with you!

But, again, who said (the Lord? Darwin?) that someone over 55 should be able to sustain? Why would nature have given this power to us? Or, is it something "social" and programmed that we WISH to continue and therefore name it a "dis ease"?

Most women also have big differences by that age which makes sex vastly less interesting. Do they also have this "dis ease"? Or is our culture just pushing us never to really grow up?

There are vast numbers of classified diseases today that have been made up for marketing purposes.

This is not to say that there are not real problems with some younger people...and the the other reasons (bad diet, poor health) don't make it so plumbing works differently. But the "judgement" of whether it is a "negative condition" seems more societal....

Just for kicks, what age do the "experts" feel that a man and woman should be able to enjoy "natural" intercourse regularly to?

I think so much of our existence is media and commercially informed.....you can find articles saying "yes, you should be able to blah blah blah". Dig deeper and perhaps the writer is paid by the makers of certain drugs...or, at minimum, paid for click bait.

I wonder what the inability for me to work 10 hours on a hot roof is called? After all, I could do it for decades and now I can't!
This here is kind of how I feel about it. Because first of all, the guy has not lost total function or anywhere close to it. And beyond that, I really believe that the focus on the standard mechanics of intercourse...it kinda takes the fun out of sex a bit in my opinion. I know that a lot of the activities that are on the menu for me and my partner are not appealing to everyone, and that's fine, but basic intimacy and the idea of simply wanting to enjoy feeling good (which can be accomplished in a wide variety of ways) should take precedent over the mechanical abilities of one's parts. It sounds as though the OP is trying to engage in a series of casual dalliances, which I'd say is less conducive to learning a dedicated partner and being loving and patient...but the latter qualities as part of a philosophy about sex, rather than a series of basic scripted steps to completion of a standard issue act, seems to lead to more satisfying encounters from what I know. For both men and women. Honestly the focus on needing a perfect, rock hard, on-demand erection, to the point of it being a source of stress and anxiety if it's not that way every single time...wow, that's really unforgiving and kind of sad. Sex should be about more than that. It can be. I argue this mostly because I hear about many married couples who just kind of give up on it as they age, and sometimes they really are very bitter and unhappy about that. Somehow stewing in misery, feeling lonely even though you have a beloved spouse, becomes easier than trying to fix the problem. But if you see sex as having to be, by necessity, this inflexible process that can only look one way, you're both missing out on a lot.
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Old 07-31-2019, 12:50 PM
 
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Just for kicks, what age do the "experts" feel that a man and woman should be able to enjoy "natural" intercourse regularly to?

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As long as they can!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Old 07-31-2019, 01:00 PM
 
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Um, what? If you're doing it right it shouldn't be that forgettable.
Age and priorities??

I am not sure if I ll do the same things that my kids are also doing
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Old 07-31-2019, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Haiku
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Viagra and the like used to cost $10-$12 for the most potent pills, and that's when it was something new back in the mid 90s. Now it's closer to $60 per pill! That's ridiculous! My insurance would also pay for a few pills per month 20 years ago, something like 3 or 4. I'd get the most potent ones and cut them in half.
Get the doc to prescribe generic 20 mg sildenafil, not viagra. The two are exactly the same med, but 20 mg sildenafil is normally used for pulmonary hypertension and it costs about 50 cents a pill. It is a total scam that they call the same exact medicine Viagra and charge 100x more for it than when it is called generic 20mg Sildenafil.
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Old 07-31-2019, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Dallas TX
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May be its the body's way of signalling you that you could do better things??

When I am 50 I am not even sure if I will remember about sex.
too bad. It gets better with age
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Old Today, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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too bad. It gets better with age
I agree.

The funny thing, to me, is that when I was in my 20's, it would have been really easy to say, "Well when I'm THAT age, I probably (hopefully) won't even care about sex." I actually didn't have a ton of interest in it then, I had small kids and wasn't in a very good relationship. I was exhausted all the time. I was looking forward to sex not being something anyone even expected of me, to be free of what was at the time, an unwanted obligation.

I'm 40 now, my unhappy prison sentence of a bad marriage is a thing of the past. My sons are on the cusp of moving out and going off to college. My workload in life no longer feels overwhelming and my life is generally full of happiness. I'm in a much better relationship, we both take great joy in one another. Sex is no longer an unwanted obligation, it's a wonderful thing for several reasons and on many levels, for us. We sure as hell are not gonna let a little bit of anatomical dysfunction get in the way of that.

When I see people saying that they don't expect to have any interest in sex after 50, I wonder how old they are now, and what their lives are like...
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