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Old 11-30-2019, 08:03 PM
 
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I think it's very scary...very worrisome

Not scary at all. Cured me of my migraines 30 years ago.


Micro doses of direct current. Many more uses will be approved in the future
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Old 11-30-2019, 08:06 PM
 
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According to the article, "You place that patch on the child's forehead and they wear it overnight".

Still, it does not sound like it has really been tested enough, and I thought "electroshock therapy" went "out with high button shoes".

It IS NOT ELECTROSHOCK THERAPY, again-we are talking MICRO current
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Old 12-01-2019, 08:45 AM
 
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Not scary at all. Cured me of my migraines 30 years ago.


Micro doses of direct current. Many more uses will be approved in the future
Have there been any long term studies on children?

4 weeks is basically no data. I don't know how any doctor could fully support this use for a child. Unless the doctors approach is ... this has only been tested for 4 weeks ... wanna try it?
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Old 12-01-2019, 12:03 PM
 
Location: colorado springs, CO
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Well at least it's not a ridiculous psychotropic.

I'd be down for a trial on myself (diagnosed with 'the most profound case of ADD ever seen in an adult female, lol by a neuro-psychiatrist).

Wouldn't put it on a kid until I had tried it on me but I'm all for trials in non-psychotropic interventions. Prevention, though. That is what needs to be focused on.
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Old 12-02-2019, 12:11 PM
 
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Have there been any long term studies on children?

4 weeks is basically no data. I don't know how any doctor could fully support this use for a child. Unless the doctors approach is ... this has only been tested for 4 weeks ... wanna try it?

Like I said, there are studies going back 30 years to when I worked on microcurrent stimulation.



The studies listed in the article are the studies used by the manufacturer to bring the device forward to market
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Old 12-03-2019, 05:41 AM
 
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Like I said, there are studies going back 30 years to when I worked on microcurrent stimulation.

The studies listed in the article are the studies used by the manufacturer to bring the device forward to market
Still haven't answered my question. How LONG was the device used and how LONG were the participants followed? What were the results, risks/benefits, serious AEs???

No need to answer, seems clear that the data is super sparse.
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Old 12-03-2019, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Central IL
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Every reported story about this is the same, same stats, same doctor, same quotes.

There doesn't seem to be a peer reviewed article that looks at the data.

My questions:
Why was the study data capped at 4 weeks?
How many kids dropped out and why?
How many kids are CONTINUING to use the device?
What are adverse effects after 3 months, 6 months of use?
How much improvement was seen in symptoms?

With none of those questions answered, this is a solid, NO.
If you want to pay to read the original research and the background research rather than a writeup for the general public then you'll likely get those answers - please report back!
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Old 12-03-2019, 06:31 AM
 
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If you want to pay to read the original research and the background research rather than a writeup for the general public then you'll likely get those answers - please report back!
There is no published study. I already looked.
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Old 12-03-2019, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Central IL
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There is no published study. I already looked.
Really - I found a JAMA article that apparently at least refers to it:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...stract/2735056
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Old 12-03-2019, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Central IL
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I think wearing a patch on their forehead would make the kids self conscious. Some of the other kids would undoubtedly tease them about it.
READ - it's only worn at night!
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