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Old 11-12-2020, 01:13 PM
 
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So my mom had lung cancer which she did radiation and chemo for which she is now cancer free. But the chemo really did a number on her body overall. It messed her thyroid and adrenal glands up and now her kidney function is on a decline. Theirs not many supplements I see that she can take to help. If anybody’s had anything similar what’s the best foods she can eat or any type of supplements that might help her kidneys?
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Old 11-12-2020, 06:32 PM
 
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So my mom had lung cancer which she did radiation and chemo for which she is now cancer free. But the chemo really did a number on her body overall. It messed her thyroid and adrenal glands up and now her kidney function is on a decline. Theirs not many supplements I see that she can take to help. If anybody’s had anything similar what’s the best foods she can eat or any type of supplements that might help her kidneys?

I don't think there is anything she can take to help improve kidney function, and taking the wrong things could make her kidneys work harder. I say that because some wacko quacko here is bound to suggest that she take some supplement or another, but she should only do so if her doctor approves it beforehand. Moderating protein intake and living,eating and exericising as healthily as she can manage is probably her best chance of regaining kidney function.



https://www.kidney.org/atoz/content/...pshealthprimer


6 Things People with Kidney Disease Should Do:
  • Lower high blood pressure
  • Manage blood sugar levels
  • Reduce salt intake
  • Avoid NSAIDs, a type of painkiller
  • Moderate protein consumption
  • Get an annual flu shot
9 Things Everyone Should Do:
  • Exercise regularly
  • Control weight
  • Follow a balanced diet
  • Quit smoking
  • Drink only in moderation
  • Stay hydrated
  • Monitor cholesterol levels
  • Get an annual physical
  • Know your family medical history
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Old 11-12-2020, 09:09 PM
 
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You can reduce the amount of work they have to do, by getting to an ideal weight, if not
there already.
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Old 11-12-2020, 10:51 PM
 
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Most important nutrient is P5P, form of vitamin B6 is really helpful - From life extension

They also mention CoQ10, Silymarin(milk thistle from Jarrow), resveratrol(Revgenetics good brand), and R-lipoic acid(or alpha lipoic acid)

as mentioned above
"High blood pressure, elevated blood sugar, NSAIDs (such as ibuprofen), certain medications, and high-protein diets are the most common threats to kidney health."

Probiotic
Little pricey, Renadyl is a probiotic that will offload removal of some waste instead of your kidney's doing it. Almost like a 3rd kidney. Also good for gout sufferers.

"natural strains of specific beneficial bacteria (probiotics) that have an affinity for uremic toxins like urea, creatinine, uric acid, and several other nitrogenous waste products"

Other supplements
Glutathione(Bulk supplements or Jarrow), full spectrum E(jarrow famil E), omegas 3(nordic naturals or virgin CoD oil), and curcumin(jarrow curcumin95 or LEF elite) are all helpful as well.

Other resources
Lots of good articles by kidney coach - Proteins, alkaline diet

Online Kidney DR, Davita website

CKD eventually got my Dad, too many nsaids and high sugar. Dialysis is no fun.

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Old 11-12-2020, 11:29 PM
 
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I don't think there is anything she can take to help improve kidney function, and taking the wrong things could make her kidneys work harder. I say that because some wacko quacko here is bound to suggest that she take some supplement or another, but she should only do so if her doctor approves it beforehand. Moderating protein intake and living,eating and exericising as healthily as she can manage is probably her best chance of regaining kidney function.



https://www.kidney.org/atoz/content/...pshealthprimer


6 Things People with Kidney Disease Should Do:
  • Lower high blood pressure
  • Manage blood sugar levels
  • Reduce salt intake
  • Avoid NSAIDs, a type of painkiller
  • Moderate protein consumption
  • Get an annual flu shot
9 Things Everyone Should Do:
  • Exercise regularly
  • Control weight
  • Follow a balanced diet
  • Quit smoking
  • Drink only in moderation
  • Stay hydrated
  • Monitor cholesterol levels
  • Get an annual physical
  • Know your family medical history

Great answer.



Supplements wont help
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Old 11-13-2020, 08:19 AM
 
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If you have kidney disease do not take any of these things without talking to your doctor first.





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Most important nutrient is P5P, form of vitamin B6 is really helpful - From life extension

They also mention CoQ10, Silymarin(milk thistle from Jarrow), resveratrol(Revgenetics good brand), and R-lipoic acid(or alpha lipoic acid)

as mentioned above
"High blood pressure, elevated blood sugar, NSAIDs (such as ibuprofen), certain medications, and high-protein diets are the most common threats to kidney health."

Probiotic
Little pricey, Renadyl is a probiotic that will offload removal of some waste instead of your kidney's doing it. Almost like a 3rd kidney. Also good for gout sufferers.

"natural strains of specific beneficial bacteria (probiotics) that have an affinity for uremic toxins like urea, creatinine, uric acid, and several other nitrogenous waste products"

Other supplements
Glutathione(Bulk supplements or Jarrow), full spectrum E(jarrow famil E), omegas 3(nordic naturals or virgin CoD oil), and curcumin(jarrow curcumin95 or LEF elite) are all helpful as well.

Other resources
Lots of good articles by kidney coach - Proteins, alkaline diet

Online Kidney DR, Davita website

CKD eventually got my Dad, too many nsaids and high sugar. Dialysis is no fun.
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Old 11-13-2020, 03:10 PM
 
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Great answer.



Supplements wont help
Milk Thistle want help at all?
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Old 11-13-2020, 03:14 PM
 
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Yes. Kidney damage can be reversed (google that) - I know people who were on dialysis and now have normal kidneys. You're wise to inquire.

I don't know the actual methods - but the kidney foundation is lots of info on foods to eat and those to avoid.

I would think lots of fresh, filtered water would be important.
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Old 11-13-2020, 04:18 PM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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It all depends on what damage was done to the kidneys.

Some damage is reversible. Most types are not.

Some kidney problems require restriction of fluids; some require extra fluids.

Some types require restriction of salt; some types require extra salt.

Some types require restriction of protein; some don't.

Some types will benefit from certain meds; most don't.

No "supplement' will help; some will hurt.

Her specific case needs to be discussed with her docs.
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Old 11-13-2020, 04:30 PM
 
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Milk Thistle want help at all?
Many supplements will help

"A randomized, controlled, double-blind study in 60 patients with diabetic kidney disease showed that compared to placebo, daily therapy with 420 mg silymarin resulted in a significant decrease in albuminuria and reduction in urinary levels of TNF-a and MDA"

Even from the article, you will see in their conclusion section they arent sticking their neck out too far. Not without a very large clinical trial which will probably never happen, but at least they provide you with the data so far.


Cost does of course become an issue. P5P would be tops for me, very inexpensive. Fish oil(part of general health anyway), Milk Thistle(silymarin), and glutathione would be next imo.
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