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My sister in Oklahoma and one of her sons are scrupulous mask-wearers. She isn't working at the moment, and he is in college online only, so they are both home almost all the time. They both got Covid about ten days ago with mild symptoms and are fully recovered. Her other son works at Trader Joe's (constantly in contact with the public) and he tested negative. Her husband is working in person at Boeing and he didn't get it either. Go figure.
The point is, the percentage of people who get Covid despite wearing masks is just a little (sarcasm) higher than the percentage of women who get pregnant while using three forms of birth control. And that we really haven't figured out yet where the rising case numbers are coming from. Everyone agrees that masks don't give 100% protection, but they clearly don't provide 95%, 90%, or maybe even 75% either. I'm not saying we shouldn't mask, every little bit helps, but I wouldn't go around blaming people who aren't wearing masks, and saying that if we all masked up every second, we wouldn't have a problem.
...Everyone agrees that masks don't give 100% protection, but they clearly don't provide 95%, 90%, or maybe even 75% either. I'm not saying we shouldn't mask, every little bit helps, but I wouldn't go around blaming people who aren't wearing masks, and saying that if we all masked up every second, we wouldn't have a problem.
I agree that "every little bit helps" , but disagree about whether or not anti-maskers should be blamed.
People who don't wear masks when they are near others who are obviously vulnerable are selfish. It's pretty easy to tell the difference between someone over 65 and someone under 40 and to see the difference between someone who looks fit and one who either looks infirm or obese. The vast majority of deaths and severe illness are in older, high risk people. Other people have gotten ill and died, too, but not in the high numbers of the old, obese and diabetic of any age.
Our masks do filter out 90% and 95% because, like many Californians, we had some left over from the wildfires of past years. But if two people are wearing typical 2020 masks around each other, there are two masks between them for protection, so let's keep that in mind. It's probably not close to double protection, but it is increased protection.
What has really disappointed me is that we don't seem to have any American businesses stepping in to manufacture proper N95 masks for the masses this far into the pandemic.
I agree that "every little bit helps" , but disagree about whether or not anti-maskers should be blamed.
People who don't wear masks when they are near others who are obviously vulnerable are selfish. It's pretty easy to tell the difference between someone over 65 and someone under 40 and to see the difference between someone who looks fit and one who either looks infirm or obese. The vast majority of deaths and severe illness are in older, high risk people. Other people have gotten ill and died, too, but not in the high numbers of the old, obese and diabetic of any age.
Our masks do filter out 90% and 95% because, like many Californians, we had some left over from the wildfires of past years. But if two people are wearing typical 2020 masks around each other, there are two masks between them for protection, so let's keep that in mind. It's probably not close to double protection, but it is increased protection.
What has really disappointed me is that we don't seem to have any American businesses stepping in to manufacture proper N95 masks for the masses this far into the pandemic.
I found one N95 factory in Vancouver BC. For free shipment, one has to order 6 boxes (x 10 pieces). https://eternitymsm.com/
ASTM Level-34-Ply Headband Style Disposable Face Masks are now selling at C$1.99 for 50 pieces.
"Some of these masks have a weak weld causing the elastic headband to pull away from the fabric of the mask." It can be easily fixed by securing them with diy stitches yourself.
Shipment is free for an order 16 boxes. https://www.maxillexpress.com/ca/cat...s/category/14/
Stop saying that everyone who is concerned is TERRIFIED - that's not true.
Masks are not 100% effective. NOTHING is 100% effective...even using 3 forms of BC some women get pregnant...! That doesn't mean we chuck BC in the toilet.
Here's a very visual model that might help you - the idea is that multiple (imperfect) layers improve the level of protection beyond any single layer:
the fact that the OP has created at least 50 emotional threads about COVID, masks and infection while screeching at people to "wear their damn masks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! " ... shows a pattern of fear and anxiety.
We just found out that our two step-grand kids have this awful disease
With our medical issues and age, there is nothing we can do but talk to them and pray. Our Docs won't let is travel two states to see them
It's not your doctor's place to "let" you travel to another American state. It's his job to advise, and your job to choose. You could choose to see them, and practice all relevant safety protocols on your visit. It's also valid to choose not to visit as well. Don't feel guilty about that. As others have noted, chances are your family members will be just fine. If they take a turn for the worse you can re-evaluate your decision not to visit at that time. Good luck to you and yours!
It's not your doctor's place to "let" you travel to another American state. It's his job to advise, and your job to choose. You could choose to see them, and practice all relevant safety protocols on your visit. It's also valid to choose not to visit as well. Don't feel guilty about that. As others have noted, chances are your family members will be just fine. If they take a turn for the worse you can re-evaluate your decision not to visit at that time. Good luck to you and yours!
Yeah, but if he does this, he is taking responsibility for his own actions and circumstances which clearly he doesn't want to do. He wants to blame his situation on someone else so that he can continue to play the "victim" card. That's just the way that some people are.
How do you know? Please cite studies, give data, and explain why so many masked places in the world have had cases skyrocket.
"People aren't wearing them" is not an excuse, because in many places people are wearing them, yet cases are soaring.
The cases are skyiocketing because people are not wearing masks. The data is in, masks do help prevent the spread.
I know it is hard for so many to grasp but you do not have to have symptoms to spread the virus. The single most important thing to know about this virus. You could be exposed, be positive and not ever feel sick. If you are not wearing a mask at this point you are going to spread the virus to everyone you come near.
There are many articles on wearing masks. Here is one.
down here in florida, convenience stores are the worst..I don't go inside but do get gas and over half, if not more of the people I see going in and out of the store don't have masks on..that's hundreds of potential spreaders every day..
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, but disagree about whether or not anti-maskers should be blamed.
