Updated CDC Covid survival rate (hospital, break, kids, cause)

[guidoLaMoto]

Originally Posted by FrankMiller

Even if you don't trust the vaccination metrics you can just look at the age-based mortality and hospitalization curves and how it shifted dramatically after elderly people were vaccinated. It's like saying the Earth is flat; if you're gonna make that assertion then you have a whole mess of phenomena that you need to explain.

False logic....First, the graph of infections/deaths over time shows the wave patterns predicted by the math-- virtually no changes seen once the vax was available. (That may be not because the vax doesn't work, but because the vax has been deployed so slowly.)...Secondly, once vaxed, a death in a non-hospitalized, elderly pt (ie- probably no testing done post mortem) is unlikely to be signed out as "CoV." We traditionally see the same phenomenon with elderly deaths & flu vax. (Over all death rate unchanged, but COD dx of Influenza is lower in the vaxed. "They had the vax-- it couldn't be flu!")

We have to use the data we have to draw conclusions, but we have to understand that the data is seriously flawed. We shouldn't get too confident in our conclusions.

[FrankMiller]

Originally Posted by guidoLaMoto

We have to use the data we have to draw conclusions, but we have to understand that the data is seriously flawed. We shouldn't get too confident in our conclusions.

You can look at covid deaths and total deaths by age from multiple countries/agencies; if it all points to the conclusion that vaccines work then it seems like a pretty safe bet. Not to mention the clinical trials themselves.

[purehuman]

Originally Posted by Arktikos

Check with your local hospital and see what they say. Covid has been a huge burden on them, most likely.

friend just had a hernia operation and when he asked the question, the nurse leaned into him and whispered in his ear.."we haven't got one case in our hospital" .
Hospitals get paid extra for every "covid" case they hospitalize and even more (a lot) if they put you on a ventilator.
If you go in for any wound or illness that causes you to die, you're put down as having died of covid 19.
Even dead on arrivals are tested for covid, and put down as a covid death if tested positive...hospital makes more money that way.
PCR tests for covid 19 were never made (according to the man who designed them) for testing for covid. They have very high false positive readings...