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hi all i hope everyone is doing great , i have break both of my fibula and tibia since 12-12-2007 untill now the bone is healing very slow and i was going to ask for some help on my x-ray examination the doc writte
>internal fixation by long intra medullary nail the fracture lower third tibia >fracture lower third fibula >evidence of the pseudo-arthrosis of the fracture ends >normal knee joint >osteoporosis of the ankle joint bones i was just trying to ask the third line writen on it pseudo-arthrosis of fracture ends what does that means , also i did't drink milf al all since the surgury but from two weeks ago i started to drink , and alos i was going to ask sex is effecting the healing proces or not . thanx all for your help :$ .
I could really use some words of encouragemnet. I had a freak accident on 8/8/08 while playing in the back yard with some children, and broke my tibia, fibula, and another bone in the back. I had been through surgery and am told that I can't still weight bear for at least 7 more weeks. Is this true???? I have had to take a full semester off of grad school, and am without work or any money, and am depending on strangers for help. I am in incredible pain and am feeling so alone, and I hate feeling so dependent upon others. I was very, very active before this accident. Any words of advice
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Hey Johnny:
So good to know that you are doing O.K.
What you mention about bone healing is, according to what I am absorbing now from the net, basically true.
Just consider, please, that there are a hell of a lot of differences among patients: their age, type, cause and site of fracture, lifestyle, and many, many etceteras...
One thing I am considering now is the role played by my mind and spirit in my tibia recovery. Just as weird as it can sound, I have been undergoing some "spirit" experiences during my recovery: I've been reading some poetry (well, several bike messengers show such tendencies), especially the American POet, Walt Whitman. Have you read it? There was a small book with his poetry at my mother's home: THe highlights of "LEaves of Grass". It is a good Spanish translation. It also includes "I sing to the electric body".
Believe me: to make such readings is really a relief. I realise that I am more, much more more that a broken tibia, and that I will recover. I will also ride, some day, some how my bicycle, on the highway and on Mexico City streets.
Also watching sit-coms, or whatever makes you feel happy is equivalent.
Just today I started to put my toes on the floor... I haven't done it for one month, because teh doc didn´t allow me to do that... But today I decided to start, very carefully. It felt OK. Next Wednesday I have a review with the orthopedist, with a new Rx. Certainly, I hope that everything will be OK and I will be allowed to bear more weight on the injured foot... I aslo hope to be able to swimm again... Being the only problem to get into and out of the pool in a safe way. I guess I will ask someone for help.
In the meanwhile, I will keep reading Whitman Poetry and writing in this forum.
HI Cmoore,
I guess I dont need to point out that the date you had your accident should have been the luckiest date of the year! If your dr says 7 more weeks then that is the case. The dr will usually give a conservative estimate about time. It could be longer than 7 weeks, but then again (and more likely) it could be only 5 or 6 weeks. Whatever you do don't push yourself too fast or you might cause more damage, it is better to be safe than sorry.Unfortunatly with this accident there is no quick fix, ie it takes weeks to heal, but it will get back to normal given time, as long as you dont do anythig wrong. I have been recovering about 10 weeks now, Im about to get another xray done and hopefully I will be allowed to FWB. I know the feeling of being dependent, it is not nice at all, but you really have no option. You should see the dr about the pain and he should be able to prescribe some painkiller. There's no shortcuts around these accidents, if it makes you feel better, there are lots of people going through the same thing all the time. A large percentage of the population probably go through this at some point in time in their lives..better now at your age that you dont have people dependent on you (ie kids etc), that is the way i look at my situation.
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Originally Posted by cmoore17
I could really use some words of encouragemnet. I had a freak accident on 8/8/08 while playing in the back yard with some children, and broke my tibia, fibula, and another bone in the back. I had been through surgery and am told that I can't still weight bear for at least 7 more weeks. Is this true???? I have had to take a full semester off of grad school, and am without work or any money, and am depending on strangers for help. I am in incredible pain and am feeling so alone, and I hate feeling so dependent upon others. I was very, very active before this accident. Any words of advice
hi all i hope everyone is doing great , i have break both of my fibula and tibia since 12-12-2007 untill now the bone is healing very slow and i was going to ask for some help on my x-ray examination the doc writte
>internal fixation by long intra medullary nail the fracture lower third tibia >fracture lower third fibula >evidence of the pseudo-arthrosis of the fracture ends >normal knee joint >osteoporosis of the ankle joint bones i was just trying to ask the third line writen on it pseudo-arthrosis of fracture ends what does that means , also i did't drink milf al all since the surgury but from two weeks ago i started to drink , and alos i was going to ask sex is effecting the healing proces or not . i hope someone could help .
I have been reading almost the whole of this post with great interest.
My story is another motorbike accident, I went too fast round a corner after and went head on into a Range Rover, was flung 30 ft down the road and luckily didn't hit anything else! I sat up thought I was ok and saw my foot was at a 90 degree angle so held it straight with my hands. My only other injuries was a scrape to the hand and arm.
Throughout my hospital stay all the nurses and doctors that saw the Xray kept saying ooh thats a bad one! and when they say its bad, you know its bad doh!! My tibula and Fibula was shattered into about 10 pieces and I have a rod in there indefinetely and have been given 6 to 9 months recovery till I can walk without a limp, I was very active before so am going stir crazy, and am not sure how long till I can get back into Taekwondo and start Triatholon.
Anyway I am repeating what has been said on this forum already but thought I would reaffirm these points as its good to know your not alone. I has been 3 months since the break and I have a consultation on Wed, looking at threads before mine I'm not getting my hopes up at this time, but fingers crossed......
Pseudoarthrosis literally means "false joint" (from Latin), it means that the bone fragment which was fractured heals in a unproper angle, fusing in a wrong position or wrong place... I am truly sorry to hear that is happening to you.
Nevertheless, you should be very aware that it has solution. You should talk with you orthopedist, demanding from him/her the whole information, so you can understand thoroughly your situation. He/She should explain to you which are the treatment options for you.
Since the fracture you suffered is located on the distal third (distal = far from the body, from the torax, that means that is close to the ankle, far from the knee), it is very logical that it didn't affect the knee... Instead, an evaluation has to be made how it affected or is affecting the ankle joint. This can be made by a close observation of the proper x-rays prints.
Also functional evaluation of the ankle joint has to be made: how well do you move it? Is movement of the ankle painful?
Have you been diagnosed of suffering an ostheoporotic condition, through a densitometric test? HOw old are you? Do you know ostheoporosis background in your close family?
In general terms, gender is a big influence on ostheoporosis: being a female implies twice the chances for suffering it than men. Drinking milk basically does not have anything with this situation. Ostheoporosis treatment implies to increase the fixation of calcium...
In general terms, we can consider that bone is a matrix of specialized cells that have an amount of calcium in them. In ostheoporosis, calcium density or its concentration decreases to such point that bones become brittle and more fracture-like...
Nowadays there is treatment for ostheoporosis. A well informed orthopedist can handdle such condition. Indeed, proper diagnosis is required.
I truly encourage you to ask your orthopedist what can be done in these regards. If you don't understand him/her because of his/her Greek/Latin/Sanscrit jargon, ask again!!! If after demanding a proper explanation, given in plain, everyday language, undesrtandable to any average citizen, and specially, understandable to you, if even so you don't understand... Well, perhaps is the moment to look for another specialist...
I know very well that it sounds scary, perhaps as scary as our orthopedic condition... BUt believe me: if you UNDERSTAND what it 's going on with you and your bones, and which are the treatment options, and WHY one specific alternative is being chosen for you, there are more chances that you overcome successfully this situation.
My very best wishes for you, wishing the fullest recovery
Manuel,
healing broken ankle Bike Messenger
(In Mexico City)
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Originally Posted by gemy2312
hi all i hope everyone is doing great , i have break both of my fibula and tibia since 12-12-2007 untill now the bone is healing very slow and i was going to ask for some help on my x-ray examination the doc writte
>internal fixation by long intra medullary nail the fracture lower third tibia >fracture lower third fibula >evidence of the pseudo-arthrosis of the fracture ends >normal knee joint >osteoporosis of the ankle joint bones i was just trying to ask the third line writen on it pseudo-arthrosis of fracture ends what does that means , also i did't drink milf al all since the surgury but from two weeks ago i started to drink , and alos i was going to ask sex is effecting the healing proces or not . thanx all for your help :$ .
I truly, truly regret to wellcome you to this not so exclusive "club"...
Yeah, this kind of fractures can happen in the most "normal" way you could ever imagine: just walking and loose one single step... In one of these forums I learned about a secretary who fell down from her typist chair, trying to grab a fallen object from her desk, and she had a closed fibula/tibia fracture!!! Tibia and fibula are quite vulnerable bones: they have a minimal cover of flesh. Over 100,000 Americans suffer such fracture every year...
Seven weeks!! That's a relatively short time, believe me.
I understand your desperation and hopelessness feelings. My fracture happened because of a simple bicycle fall, with no motor vehicle involved... I made a dumb mistake for an "experienced" ciclyst: I tried to cross some railroad track without enough rectangle angle... The consequence: Open grade I fracture of both fibula and tibia.
At the moment of the accident, I was trying to start a bicycle courier service here in Mexico City. I already had some regular customers, being able to have a minimal income, enough for paying bills and to think about some growth for my business... I was really close to hire another messenger.
I used to live by myself, in a small shared apartment in Mexico City's downtown...
Well, it's gone with the wind after this accident. I was taken to the Red Cross Hospital, a mixture of charity-private hospital in Mexico City (I don't know how it works in the States or somewhere else)... I arrived there very concious, with absolutely no pain... Absolutely nobody told me or explained to me the nature of my fractures. I spent 7 days at that hospital!!! That was just the first surprise!!! One surgery for installiing one metal plate plus two screws. Two minor procedures: one for cleansing of the wound of the open fracture, and another for withdrawing the so called retention screw...
THe wildest surprise: 6 weeks of inmobilisation (that was precisely the purpose of the retention screw, put there in order to assure the proper healing of the injured bones...). Pain and foot swelling...
Now, I am just starting to walk with crutches, partial weight bearing... with some physyotherapy... Also realising that full recovery will require at least another 3 or 4 weeks...
In average, I was riding 50 or more kms a day, over 15 deliveries every day. SOme busy days I was able to ride up to 100 kms in one single days.
At the moment, I am as jobless as you, without even the chance to look for a job. I was taken to my mother's home to spend this recovery process. Going back to the bike courier stuff is beyond any consideration. How much will it take to recover my bicycle skills??? For not talking about the risk to have another accident... So, I will have to look for a desk job, with all that it implies to me... I'm 46 years old, certainly not "old", but I have to consider that I am not a 20 years young man anymore...
I haven't ended up commited to a psychiatric ward during this process just because I have had the chance to meditate and try to understand which is the meaning of all this to me, if it has some meaning... Among other things, I have discovered how important is to calm down: I can remember in what messy state my mind was before the accident: always rushing, always trying to overperform... I really have to consider that this could have been much, much worse to me. Very luckily no motor vehicle was involved in my accident.
During these days of recovery I realise how important is the communication with whom ever is relevant to you: your relatives, your friends, your class mates. You will always be able to find someone.
Books, music, some T. V. are also very helpful.
So, Cmoore, take care and my best wishes for you.
Manuel
healing broken ankle Bike Messenger
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Originally Posted by cmoore17
I could really use some words of encouragemnet. I had a freak accident on 8/8/08 while playing in the back yard with some children, and broke my tibia, fibula, and another bone in the back. I had been through surgery and am told that I can't still weight bear for at least 7 more weeks. Is this true???? I have had to take a full semester off of grad school, and am without work or any money, and am depending on strangers for help. I am in incredible pain and am feeling so alone, and I hate feeling so dependent upon others. I was very, very active before this accident. Any words of advice
Could someone help me find some good therapy exercises?
Hi,
New to this. My sister, 26 and athletic, broke her tibia in four places while playing football three weeks ago. She had a rod inserted and 5 screws. Still in pain and some slight swelling. She's been swimming for therapy and riding a stationary bike. Doc said would take about six weeks to try and put weight on it but to move it as much as she could stand.
What I'm looking for is if anyone could tell me some specific exercises that they used in therapy to get mobility back in the ankle? We don't have insurance and are currently traveling on a mission trip so going to actual hospital therapy is not going to happen.
Could someone please tell me what exercises they did to get the foot and leg back into shape and increase mobility in the ankle? Should I help manipulate her ankle to try and increase circulation?
Any advise from previous experience would be greatly appreciated.
Haven't you ever considered how dependant are you on so many people?
First of all, in our current situation, you and me are dependant on quite specialized physicians, nurses, physiotherapist, x-ray technicians, anesthesiologists, paramedics, janitors, well just imagine!!! Have you ever considered what kind of treatment for this kind of fractures (specially the so called open ones) there were 80, 100, 150 years ago?
I am very aware that neither you nor me have asked for this situation. Certainly not at all!!! I understand your regret and hopelessness because is exactly my same regret and hopelessness. I know the vulnerability you are experiencing now, having been naked, without information in that cold, "impersonal" hospital.
During these endless days of inmobilization, I have learned something, my dear young friend: being angry or hateful in this situation does not help at all. It also makes your bone cells angry, and believe me: your cell bones need to be very happy now, so they can heal better and faster.
Please, I ask you: turn that negative energy into positive one. Envision yourself as a young, healthy man, no matters what. You, me, everyone will be O.K. Please read your favorite books, listen to your favorite music, do you read poetry? If not, this is the time to start... if it is not possible, please look at the sky, look at another person, whoever he or she might be. Please realise about the incredible, formidable miracle that it implies to be alive. You are much more than a broken bone. Yours, my life is much more than a broken bone.
Someday, somehow, you, me, others from this forum, from other forum will ride along our bicycles somewhere, the bicycles of life.
With my deepest sincere wishes for your 100% full recovery.
Manuel
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Originally Posted by cmoore17
I could really use some words of encouragemnet. I had a freak accident on 8/8/08 while playing in the back yard with some children, and broke my tibia, fibula, and another bone in the back. I had been through surgery and am told that I can't still weight bear for at least 7 more weeks. Is this true???? I have had to take a full semester off of grad school, and am without work or any money, and am depending on strangers for help. I am in incredible pain and am feeling so alone, and I hate feeling so dependent upon others. I was very, very active before this accident. Any words of advice
Ideed, there are several ankle exercises useful for our current situation.
I understand your situation, since I don't have neither insurance. My mother and some relatives are supporting me, and I started physiotherapy. They use some electric stimulation, apply some Laser beams, and exercises. Certainly the physiotherapist manipulates a lot the foot, ankle and leg. BAsic exercise: move toes, forward, backward. Move foot toward/away from your body, while lying on your back. Do circles with your foot. To decrease swelling: keep your leg above your heart, over some pillows. It is useful to do it while you sleep, uncomfortable, yes, but useful. YOu can also use mild/moderate compression stocking.
Anyway, I should highly suggest at least one visit to an experienced physiotherapist, since he/she can evaluate the situation and suggest proper, specific exercises.
With my best wishes
Manuel
Healing broken ankle bike messenger
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Originally Posted by NurseSister
Hi,
New to this. My sister, 26 and athletic, broke her tibia in four places while playing football three weeks ago. She had a rod inserted and 5 screws. Still in pain and some slight swelling. She's been swimming for therapy and riding a stationary bike. Doc said would take about six weeks to try and put weight on it but to move it as much as she could stand.
What I'm looking for is if anyone could tell me some specific exercises that they used in therapy to get mobility back in the ankle? We don't have insurance and are currently traveling on a mission trip so going to actual hospital therapy is not going to happen.
Could someone please tell me what exercises they did to get the foot and leg back into shape and increase mobility in the ankle? Should I help manipulate her ankle to try and increase circulation?
Any advise from previous experience would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you!
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