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Old 01-18-2024, 02:33 PM
 
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There was British tv show with that name.

It showed what the participants ate for 1 full week on one table.

I loved that show!
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Old 01-19-2024, 06:47 AM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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About 40% of longevity is genetic https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8836117/ and even more important in the superannuated (centenarians-- not just anybody can live that long)....and about half of longevity is due to chance(if we can extrapolate mouse studies to humans)...In mice of identical genetic status, raised under the same conditions, longevity of the population has a very wide variance.

In many studies on humans, calorie restriction does seem to be correlated positively with longevity-- but it ain't that big of a difference, and IMHO, not worth the suffering.

Old routine on HeeHaw-- Did you hear that Slim died? He was 99 y/o. The other guy asks Did he smoke?...No...Did he drink?...No...Did he run around with women?...No...Then why'd he want to live that long for?
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Old 01-19-2024, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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About 40% of longevity is genetic https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8836117/ and even more important in the superannuated (centenarians-..
20-40% according to your link. These two below say 25%

"..Healthy aging and longevity in humans are modulated by a lucky combination of genetic and non-genetic factors. Family studies demonstrated that about 25 % of the variation in human longevity is due to genetic factors..."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...etic%20factors.

https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/und...its/longevity/

Of course, it's not a settled question. Also, quality of life in the final years is a consideration.

Calorie restriction-probably worth the suffering for someone who's overweight. Humans are highly adaptable. I would imagine that eventually they'd adjust to the new diet and it would no longer be a hardship.
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Old 01-19-2024, 10:43 AM
 
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So now restricting calories is considered "suffering"?
I thought it was a way to take care of oneself so they could stay mobile as they age and feel better about themselves mentally and physically. My bad.
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Old 01-19-2024, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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So now restricting calories is considered "suffering"?
I thought it was a way to take care of oneself so they could stay mobile as they age and feel better about themselves mentally and physically. My bad.
Someone who is overweight and having to restrict calories will, in all likelihood, consider it suffering.

I only have to lose 10 lbs, and I feel a bit of suffering. People like to eat, I LOVE to eat, I am lucky that I enjoy healthy homemade foods.

Someone who is used to processed foods and fast food will really feel like they are suffering.
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Old 02-22-2024, 07:02 PM
 
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Someone who is overweight and having to restrict calories will, in all likelihood, consider it suffering.

I only have to lose 10 lbs, and I feel a bit of suffering. People like to eat, I LOVE to eat, I am lucky that I enjoy healthy homemade foods.

Someone who is used to processed foods and fast food will really feel like they are suffering.
Agreed. We in North America have normalized fast food and big portions.

So when we watch those food shows in a Michelin Star restaurant where they give you a small portion on a big plate... we laugh.

Watch how many other cultures around the world eat.

The "healthier" diets are more about quality - vegetables, grains, seafood, herbs and the red meat is in small portions.

I think pretty much any documentary can be skewed. Depending on who the producers are, etc.

But I agree that a diet consisting of mostly vegetables and some meat is the best balance.

It's difficult for us in N America to control our "diets". We all have our junk food / snacks that we hold near and dear.

If you come and take away my bag of Doritos, you better be ready for a fight.
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Old 02-23-2024, 02:55 PM
 
Location: clown world
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Just watched the first episode on Netflix.

Here's a brief summary:".. Netflix's four-episode series, titled "You Are What You Eat: A Twin Experiment," follows four sets of twins for the eight weeks of the experiment, which found that a plant-based diet resulted in many health benefits, including reduced cholesterol, increased healthy gut bacteria, decreased inflammation and decreased insulin.,,"

https://www.axios.com/local/san-fran...-you-eat-vegan

Actually there are 20 sets of twins in the experiment.

the beneficial bacteria in our guts thrive on plant fiber. and when they thrive we thrive. but not necessary to exclude meats -- that's a political/emotional decision, not a gut health decision
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Old 03-01-2024, 11:51 AM
 
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I love vegan food, and I did find the series started to feel like vegan propaganda. But the study itself was separate of the series. And the results are more complex.

I definitely learned a lot from the show, though, and came away with a more positive attitude towards vegan cheese! LOL
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Old 03-02-2024, 08:09 AM
 
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I find that including a very small amount of select fruits and vegetables to my
animal-product-based diet is very much beneficial.

A diet that is mainly fruits and vegetables, for me, that would work very poorly for various reasons, I have tried doing so quite few times.
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Old 03-02-2024, 09:35 AM
 
Location: The Bubble, Florida
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I am a cup of coffee and butter-chicken and broccoli over basmati rice.

I can think of worse things to be.
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