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Old 02-19-2024, 02:58 PM
 
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So you can't tolerate pill vitamins, but you are okay when you drink them?

I think your going to have to come up with your recipe to make your shakes at home.


Or buy straight whey protein (that's it, nothing else), and then buy either powdered or liquid vitamins, and add what ever fruit, veggies or sugar you want.

Well it's difficult to know yet, because I've only tried the Ensure, which has caused a lot of extreme digestive discomfort. I assumed it was the sucralose, because that is always the reaction I've had with artificial sweeteners.

I've found one Boost product that does not contain any artificial sweeteners or Stevia, so I guess I'll find out if I can take liquid vitamins. I'm not thrilled with the carrageenan, but what are ya gonna do?

Hopefully this is only for short term as I recover. Costwise I can't see me using these products forever and since my prognosis is good, I don't expect to need them for more than a few months. I just picked up some bars (called RXBARS) too that don't have any crap at all in them, as another alternative to to pump the protein on a day I haven't had enough.

I appreciate all the suggestions, including the ones that have to be mixed, blended or make your own, but I'm just too tired and sick to be doing all that, not to mention all the trial and error of it all.

I need easy right now. Eggs, scrambled or boiled, or take some homemade soup out of the freezer, roast a chicken, boil potatoes, put together a salad, cheese and triscuit crackers, Post Shredded Wheat and Bran cereal with some kind of fruit thrown in. Pasta now and then.


But messing about with a blender and mixing, and the clean up of it, is just not feasible. The cat's raw diet is about all I can handle, as far as "complicated" but I've been doing that for 12 years, so it's practically effortless at this point.

Someone mentioned Carnation Instant Breakfast, I remember those, We'd get a box of it in our food pantry bags sometimes, it was always cause for excitement, it sure helped the powdered milk go down lol. A quick look ..and I see Stevia in the "original" so obviously not all that original. So annoying.

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Old 02-19-2024, 04:21 PM
 
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Have you tried OWYN?

It's a plant-based protein shake [20g] with only 4g of cane sugar and no sucralose or other fake sugars. You can get the full ingredient list here: https://liveowyn.com/products/protein-shakes/?sku=8419

I forgot to check on this one until now. It looks okay, but I can't see anyway to order anything but the variety pack. I don't like coffee flavored drinks, so that would be a waste for me.
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Old 02-19-2024, 07:03 PM
 
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Well it's difficult to know yet, because I've only tried the Ensure, which has caused a lot of extreme digestive discomfort. I assumed it was the sucralose, because that is always the reaction I've had with artificial sweeteners.
I think the the digestive discomfort might be due to the MPC - Milk Protein Concentrate or the corn maltodextrin.

Milk Protein Concentrate is only 20% whey and 80% caesin.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/case...0the%20protein.

"Some people may experience digestive discomfort, such as bloating, gas, or constipation, after consuming casein protein," Best warns.

You may be especially susceptible to digestive issues caused by casein protein powder if you struggle with a dairy sensitivity or gut lacks the enzymes necessary to digest the protein. "


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The carb portion of some versions of Ensure is from corn maltodextrin.

https://www.medicinenet.com/what_is_...ou/article.htm

"Side effects: A higher dosage consumption of maltodextrin can cause gastrointestinal symptoms, such as gas and diarrhea"

https://www.brothoflife.com.au/blogs...f-maltodextrin

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I appreciate all the suggestions, including the ones that have to be mixed, blended or make your own, but I'm just too tired and sick to be doing all that, not to mention all the trial and error of it all.


But messing about with a blender and mixing, and the clean up of it, is just not feasible.
When I take Whey Protein I just scoop some into a cup of water and stir it with a spoon. No blender is needed.
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Old 02-19-2024, 08:11 PM
 
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I'm sorry that you are contending with this and I hope that your body heals and you feel better soon.

I have never dealt with anything like this but I would suggest looking at meal replacements for children like Pediasure or Kate Farms. Those might be less likely to use the artificial sweeteners that hurt your stomach.

Also, there are vitamin drops for children that may or may not work better for you than the pill form does.
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Old 02-19-2024, 08:38 PM
 
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Someone mentioned Carnation Instant Breakfast, I remember those...it sure helped the powdered milk go down lol. A quick look ..and I see Stevia in the "original" so obviously not all that original. So annoying.
Carnation Instant Breakfast is powdered milk with flavorings and sweeteners. Again, Stevia is a natural sweetener, so it shouldn't bother you if artificial sweeteners are the problem.
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Old 02-20-2024, 05:41 AM
 
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I think the the digestive discomfort might be due to the MPC - Milk Protein Concentrate or the corn maltodextrin.

Milk Protein Concentrate is only 20% whey and 80% caesin.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/case...0the%20protein.

"Some people may experience digestive discomfort, such as bloating, gas, or constipation, after consuming casein protein," Best warns.

You may be especially susceptible to digestive issues caused by casein protein powder if you struggle with a dairy sensitivity or gut lacks the enzymes necessary to digest the protein. "


__________________________________________________ ____________

The carb portion of some versions of Ensure is from corn maltodextrin.

https://www.medicinenet.com/what_is_...ou/article.htm

"Side effects: A higher dosage consumption of maltodextrin can cause gastrointestinal symptoms, such as gas and diarrhea"

https://www.brothoflife.com.au/blogs...f-maltodextrin



When I take Whey Protein I just scoop some into a cup of water and stir it with a spoon. No blender is needed.

I am not lactose intolerant thankfully, I go through close to three gallons of milk a week, generally speaking . Eat a lot of hard cheese too.

Can't eat yogurt though. I've given up trying.

But your point is valid, about all the other crap in these drinks, and they are full of junk. Generally speaking I strive to eat whole foods not junk, non-GMO Project Verified whenever possible, so it could be anything in them that's bothering me, I'm just not used to all that stuff, especially, as you say, the corn derivatives. Not to mention the soy. Both super high GMO, full of pesticides.

Well I haven't used the Boost yet, but likely I will need one today.

@Springfieldva has a good suggestion about checking on the offerings in the baby aisle. I'll have a look but won't be shocked if I discover that the babies are being started right out on the same chemicals and junk that's making the whole world sick.
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Old 02-20-2024, 07:20 AM
 
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...your point is valid, about all the other crap in these drinks, and they are full of junk. Generally speaking I strive to eat whole foods not junk, non-GMO Project Verified whenever possible...won't be shocked if I discover that the babies are being started right out on the same chemicals and junk that's making the whole world sick.
So you're now against ALL artificial ingredients; not just sweeteners? If so, forget any "meal replacement shake." Just eat more whole foods!
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Old 02-20-2024, 07:28 AM
 
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How about some very lightly cooked organic or farm fresh scrambled eggs (4 or 5) whipped up in a blender with some other ingredients. Maybe a banana or avacado.
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Old 02-20-2024, 07:33 AM
 
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I am sorry. I just saw that you did not want to mess with a blender. You can scramble the eggs and mash a banana in it on a plate. Eggs mix with many things!
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Old 02-20-2024, 08:40 AM
 
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How about some very lightly cooked organic or farm fresh scrambled eggs (4 or 5) whipped up in a blender with some other ingredients. Maybe a banana or avacado.
I recommend something like the above ^^^. OP, any and all processed "meal replacements" are going to be full of chemicals and sugars etc. and not really that healthy. I would just find a recipe that you can put in a blender and blend it all up. You can easily blend a variety of vegetables, pureed beans or even meat, eggs, etc and drink it down. This is what I would do.

And just a note, that "Ensure" is garbage. It has UNBELIEVABLE amounts of sugar, and I didn't even realize it also had artificials until you mentioned it. Not fit for human consumption. I was sick for awhile a couple years ago and couldn't eat and tried those and ended up with diabetic ketoacidosis from all the sugar.
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