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I think people should circumsize if they have a boy.
Uncircumsized ones just look so weird and gross!
I can't see myself getting physical with a guy who isn't circumsized- yuck!
What are you going to do when you go visit Spain and the studly-looking Latin-lover matador decides, out of the entire audience in the bullring, to eye you? Cognitive dissonance on your part?
I never understood men who say "My son needs to be circumcised like his dad!" - what are they going to do, get their penises out and compare them with each other? It's completely irrelevant
I am a gay man and probably know the male genitalia better than most. Men who are uncircumcised enjoy sex more; the foreskin holds a large amount of nerve endings ( I once read that the amount of nerve endings in the average penis, if stretched out could circle the globe - twice) and these provide for a more sensitive experience. Without the foreskin, the gland is exposed to clothes and looses considerable sensitivity.
Foreskin is not 'dirty'; people are. If someone is a dirty person, removing their foreskin will not make them cleaner. By that logic, we should remove their nails and ears so they don't have to clean them, either.
My biggest issue with circumcision is the lack of choice. The child has the right to decide what they want to do with their body when they are older; forcibly cutting off a part of their body they were born with is denying them the right to determine how their bodies will look like/feel like for the rest of their lives.
Please watch a circumcision procedure on youtube. It is the most cruel, blood-curdling experience you can imagine.
Ow thats old to have it done. Just like having your tonsuls removed it's a preventative measure. If it saves 5% of men from having problems down the road its worth it in many parents eyes.
The people who blow it out of proportion or call it mutilation and say it is like female circumcision should consult with those men who have been circumcized. Ive never known of one man who has had a problem being circumcized as a child.
Well you haven't done much research, have you.
There are thousands of support groups (many headed by doctors) of men who feel they have been robbed of a part of their manhood by being cut; and many others for whom the procedure has gone wrong.
I'd post the links but the I don't know if that is allowed
There is no reason for it. It's one of those things that should be left up to the individual. A guy has his whole life to decide to have it done. There is no benefit to doing it, and in addition, choosing to cut off a part of a child is barbaric. I don't support outlawing it, but it should, by no means, be recommended to parents, as if it has some sort of benefits.
Wow!!! What a subject in todays society. Decades ago it was not normallydone and with times changing as it is in the 21st centurymore people are opting for theprocedure. Steve
I quoted from the OP, an old one, without reading the rest of the thread, a voluminous one, in order to correct some recent history. Sorry if this has already been stated. I was born in 1944. As a male child growing up in the 1950's, I can tell you that in the middle class and upper middle class we were almost all circumsized. We took showers in gym starting in the seventh grade and continued to do so through 12th grade. (The point being that attitudes toward nudity, at least within the same gender, were much more relaxed back then). I attended large schools in both the mid-west and in California. It was extremely rare for a boy during those years not to be circumsized. So basically an entire generation (in the United States) was a circumsized generation.
Note that I am not arguing the merits (desirability), just correcting the OP's sense of recent history. I understand that at some point this near universality of infant circumcision (as practiced in the 1940's, 50's, and 60's) changed and it became something closer to 50/50. If the OP is considerably younger than I am, he may be right about "decades ago" if he means the 1980's and 90's - it just depends on which decades he is talking about.
I quoted from the OP, an old one, without reading the rest of the thread, a voluminous one, in order to correct some recent history. Sorry if this has already been stated. I was born in 1944. As a male child growing up in the 1950's, I can tell you that in the middle class and upper middle class we were almost all circumsized. We took showers in gym starting in the seventh grade and continued to do so through 12th grade. (The point being that attitudes toward nudity, at least within the same gender, were much more relaxed back then). I attended large schools in both the mid-west and in California. It was extremely rare for a boy during those years not to be circumsized. So basically an entire generation (in the United States) was a circumsized generation.
Note that I am not arguing the merits (desirability), just correcting the OP's sense of recent history. I understand that at some point this near universality of infant circumcision (as practiced in the 1940's, 50's, and 60's) changed and it became something closer to 50/50. If the OP is considerably younger than I am, he may be right about "decades ago" if he means the 1980's and 90's - it just depends on which decades he is talking about.
^^^ Correct. The rate has come down a lot, where I think it was previously almost universal in the US and some other countries at one point. Even in the late 80s/early 90s it seemed most, but not all of the other guys in my grade were circumsized. (Hey--I played four sports and took plenty of phys ed classes, enough shower time in there). That was mid-late 80s.
I didn't get my daughters genitals mutilated so I thought it only fair not to do it to my son either.
For those who claim it's for "hygiene" reasons...may as well get your babies ears lopped off too, so they won't have to bother to wash behind those either.
I'd had my boys done, just because I thought that since "everyone did it" it must be necessary, as if having the foreskin is some sort of defect.
Much, much later I learn that it is a hangover from an ancient religion that was used as a "marker" for certain sports, much like we use numbers on game player's shirts.
I don't understand why you wouldn't want his doctor to examine it. I could be mistaken, but I believe you should be retracting the foreskin and cleaning under it every time you give him a bath. Please look into this if you're not now cleaning it.
I know that some young men have a difficult time retracting it because it's too tight. In that case surgery is often required.
Yes you should pull it back a bit when you clean it, however that foreskin does NOT fully retract until around the time the child turns 5!! Forcing it back can CAUSE damage to it, I would think any REAL doctor would know that!!
My son was born prematurely by 3 months. His stay in the NICU actually prevented him from being circumcised, which I had full intentions of doing. However, he cannot be until he is a year old, as they will be using anesthesia. I have been doing my research, and I'm quite torn. His dad is, yet has left the decision up to me. I do think the look weird left unclipped, however, I feel that may be due to fact that in this culture we are usually exposed to ones that are trimmed. I have been with both, never noticed a real difference. A bit getting use to, but then it's nothing strange.
I see some men wish they had been left alone, others are glad they were clipped, some wish they had been clipped as babies. It's very overwhelming as a mother to make this decision.
I find it quite easy to keep my little man clean. he's now 4 months old and has had no problems with infections (knock on wood)
I have also seen pics of a circ'ed woman. They did not clip off her entire clitoris, just the hood of skin over it. It looked disgusting, like a miniature penis I wonder if that is the reason they outlawed it on women but not men, It looks nicer on men, and awful on women.
I've also seen that it was originally pushed to prevent masturbation. That does not seem to work. I've seen it done for religious purposes, however I wonder how many people who do this for religious purposes actually follow the bible commandments word for word?
I love a circumsized male!!!! It is clean and beautiful. Many uncicumsized males have very bad odors..........and harbor the HPV virus that gives women Cancer in the Uterine. Ladies look for a circumsized male ONLY......
Wow, way to keep the trends going. I was married to an untrimmed man, and he didn't smell, and I never caught anything from him. Seems to me that you need to pick better cleaner men, not their penises.
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I wonder if that is the reason they outlawed it on women but not men, It looks nicer on men, and awful on women.
