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Old 06-21-2008, 09:21 AM
 
Location: So. of Rosarito, Baja, Mexico
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Talking MALE CIRCUMCISION: Male and Female perspective opinions?

Wow!!! What a subject in todays society. Decades ago it was not normally done and with times changing as it is in the 21st century more people are opting for the procedure. Sex experts will agree and disagree to the advantages. Medical opinions will vary slightly as to cleanliness etc. Do we (males) need it done after birth or just leave everything original as God had intended?. Must have been a reason for the foreskin to be there. What do some men think and are the WOMEN satisfied? Opinions greatly appreciated. Steve
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Old 06-22-2008, 09:22 AM
 
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Actually, the circ rate now is about 50/50 for baby boys, so it's gone way down in recent years.

In my opinion, if boys were meant to have a foreskin, they'd be born with it!
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Old 06-22-2008, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Moon Over Palmettos
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We just follow cultural and religious norms. My son was circumcized as an infant. I personally have not met an uncircumcised man.
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Old 06-22-2008, 09:41 AM
 
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I would never circumcise my child. I think its a cruel act and all the "reasons" it was done (other than religious) have now been debunked.
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Old 06-22-2008, 09:51 AM
 
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I would never circumcise my child. I think its a cruel act and all the "reasons" it was done (other than religious) have now been debunked.
I didn't circumcise my son for just those reasons.
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Old 06-22-2008, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Catonsville, MD
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If we had adopted boys, my husband and I were of totally different viewpoints on this. My thought is that unless there is a medical reason (and for us there is no religious reason,) a boy should be left as he was born. My husband felt that if we had adopted a boy, he should be like my husband and be circumcised. Our situation would have been complicated by the fact that we would have adopted a child who was not a newborn and possibly as old as 2 years old. As fate would have it, we ended up adopting two girls, so the point was moot.

To be honest, I've always been curious whether there's a difference in feel for the female partner of an uncircumcised man (not that I'd leave my wonderful un-circ hubby!) Without getting beyond PG-13, can anybody shed some light?
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Old 06-22-2008, 10:35 AM
 
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I would never circumcise my child. I think its a cruel act and all the "reasons" it was done (other than religious) have now been debunked.
Unfortunately this isn't true. Uncircumcised men are more likely to harbor papilloma virus, including the cancer causing strains (and transmit them to their partners). Circumcision and human papillomavirus infection in...[J Infect Dis. 2008] - PubMed Result

In addition, it's associated with LOWER rates of HIV: Male circumcision, religion, and infectious diseas...[BMC Infect Dis. 2006] - PubMed Result

Lack kof circumcision is also a risk factor for penile carcinoma: Penile cancer. [J Am Acad Dermatol. 2006] - PubMed Result
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Old 06-22-2008, 10:57 AM
 
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Unfortunately this isn't true. Uncircumcised men are more likely to harbor papilloma virus, including the cancer causing strains (and transmit them to their partners). Circumcision and human papillomavirus infection in...[J Infect Dis. 2008] - PubMed Result

In addition, it's associated with LOWER rates of HIV: Male circumcision, religion, and infectious diseas...[BMC Infect Dis. 2006] - PubMed Result

Lack kof circumcision is also a risk factor for penile carcinoma: Penile cancer. [J Am Acad Dermatol. 2006] - PubMed Result
Your first two links clearly state:

Lack of circumcision has been identified as a risk factor for male genital human papillomavirus (HPV) infection, although this association has not been consistently supported.

and

Both religious practices and male circumcision (MC) have been associated with HIV and other sexually-transmitted infectious diseases. Most studies have been limited in size and have not adequately controlled for religion, so these relationships remain unclear.

Therefore the inconsistencies of the statements from both articles become unreliable and in my book, invalid.

As for the latter statement---that's pretty much riding on the logic of "if you have it, then it might get cancer". In that case, we might as well start chopping off our other genitals and privates as well.

If others want to circumcise their little boys, fine by me. Not my penis, not my worry. However I still can never fathom the thought of CHOPPING INTO MY KID'S PENIS to prevent him from HIV in the case he grows up to be promiscuous--what? No thanks.
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Old 06-22-2008, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Moon Over Palmettos
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I guess my next question would be to those who were uncircumcized...do you wish you were as a child?
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Old 06-22-2008, 12:54 PM
 
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Your first two links clearly state:

Lack of circumcision has been identified as a risk factor for male genital human papillomavirus (HPV) infection, although this association has not been consistently supported.

and

Both religious practices and male circumcision (MC) have been associated with HIV and other sexually-transmitted infectious diseases. Most studies have been limited in size and have not adequately controlled for religion, so these relationships remain unclear.

Therefore the inconsistencies of the statements from both articles become unreliable and in my book, invalid.

As for the latter statement---that's pretty much riding on the logic of "if you have it, then it might get cancer". In that case, we might as well start chopping off our other genitals and privates as well.

If others want to circumcise their little boys, fine by me. Not my penis, not my worry. However I still can never fathom the thought of CHOPPING INTO MY KID'S PENIS to prevent him from HIV in the case he grows up to be promiscuous--what? No thanks.
Yes, and if you pull out all his teeth as they come in then he'll never get any cavities!
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