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Old 09-21-2008, 02:28 PM
 
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Hi
I have been trying to get pregnant now for nearly 2 years but nothing has happened. I am 23 and healthy. The only thing that would have an impact is the fact that I have endometriosis. I was diagnosed at 19 with this. However, I have been told it is mild so I don't know how much this would effect me.
I was referred to a fertility doctor by my gp, but when I went to see him hesaid he felt I hadn't been trying long enough and that I was very young.
I was insulted as I don't think age should matter. I have a good job, my own house and I am engaged. I think I can make this decision myself.
Anyway needless to say both my partner and I are getting really frustrated as nothing seems to be happening.
I am back on the waiting list to see the fertility doctor so who knows how long that will take-my 1st meeting with him was 6 months ago and I stil haven't heard anything.
If anyone could offer me advice I wuld really appreciate it.
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Old 09-21-2008, 05:33 PM
 
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I am not a doctor or a gp but I do know that the relationship between endometriosis and infertility is an active area of research. At one time in my life I wanted to be a genetic engineer and the field of fertility also fascinated men so I studied that as well.

About 30% to 40% of women with endometriosis are infertile, making it one of the leading causes of infertility. However, endometriosis-related infertility is often treated successfully with surgical destruction of the disease. Some women do not find out that they have endometriosis until they have trouble getting pregnant. While the presence of extensive endometriosis distorts pelvic anatomy and thus explains infertility, the relationship between early or mild endometriosis and infertility is less clear so in your case I am not sure.

It would also depend upon where your endometriosis is located and infecting. I remember reading something about endometriosis being caused by an excess of estrogen during the fertile years… if this is your problem; you face the same ones that bodybuilders do.

Basically, when a man doses up on steroids, he pumps up his body with testosterone (the male hormone). After a while his testes stop producing it and his body begins to produce estrogen (the female hormone) to counter act the high testosterone levels. Causing many men to grow breasts and other female traits/issues. So, many of the bodybuilders ‘stack’ their steroids with anti-estrogen substances to block the effects of estrogen in their bodies. I do not remember all of them but the three that I do remember are SERMs, which stands for “Selective Estrogen Receptor Inhibitor” and two drugs, namely Clomid (Clomiphene Citrate) and Nolvadex (Tamoxifin Citrate).

Clomid is a drug given to women as a fertility aid, which acts by binding to the estrogen receptor and thereby blocking estrogen from doing the same in some tissues. It can bind to breast tissue, and prevent estrogen from binding there to cause gynocomastia -although it is not nearly as effective as nolvadex.

I would not recommend using any of these until you talk to your gp or a fertility specialist. Remember though, doctors are always sued and their insurance is high… they might tell you no just because that is safer than taking a risk of any kind.

Hope it helps some, good luck! I am not real religious but I will say a prayer for you!
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Old 09-21-2008, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Northglenn, Colorado
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Hi
I have been trying to get pregnant now for nearly 2 years but nothing has happened. I am 23 and healthy. The only thing that would have an impact is the fact that I have endometriosis. I was diagnosed at 19 with this. However, I have been told it is mild so I don't know how much this would effect me.
I was referred to a fertility doctor by my gp, but when I went to see him hesaid he felt I hadn't been trying long enough and that I was very young.
I was insulted as I don't think age should matter. I have a good job, my own house and I am engaged. I think I can make this decision myself.
Anyway needless to say both my partner and I are getting really frustrated as nothing seems to be happening.
I am back on the waiting list to see the fertility doctor so who knows how long that will take-my 1st meeting with him was 6 months ago and I stil haven't heard anything.
If anyone could offer me advice I wuld really appreciate it.
my wife and I tried for well over a year and a half for our daughter, we did see fertility specialists, and I had the dreaded "count" done on my swimmers. nothing came back wrong. It was not until we calmed down and quit getting frustrated that things happened.
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Old 09-21-2008, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Catonsville, MD
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Despite your endometriosis, please have your fiance get tested to make sure his sperm are plentiful and excellent swimmers before you have any invasive tests yourself. We tried to get pregnant for a long time and when we went to a fertility specialist, the first thing she said was, "The first thing I do is hand the husband a cup and ask him to give me a specimen. For them, it's not painful and it's an easy test. For women, a lot of the tests are painful and invasive." Through my hubby's testing, we found out that hubby indeed had issues. But then again, so did I. We now have two of the most wonderful kids - both adopted.
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Old 09-21-2008, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Northglenn, Colorado
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Despite your endometriosis, please have your fiance get tested to make sure his sperm are plentiful and excellent swimmers before you have any invasive tests yourself. We tried to get pregnant for a long time and when we went to a fertility specialist, the first thing she said was, "The first thing I do is hand the husband a cup and ask him to give me a specimen. For them, it's not painful and it's an easy test. For women, a lot of the tests are painful and invasive." Through my hubby's testing, we found out that hubby indeed had issues. But then again, so did I. We now have two of the most wonderful kids - both adopted.
it is however incredibly embarrassing walking into the doctors office with a brown paper bag.
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Old 09-21-2008, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Catonsville, MD
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it is however incredibly embarrassing walking into the doctors office with a brown paper bag.
I'm sure it is.

During our third and final IVF attempt, my hubby, who was psychologically unable to provide his contribution there at the office, acquired his contribution at home and took it, while I was recovering from the egg retrieval, to the office where my eggs were waiting for fertilization. What he didn't realize was that placing them on the car seat in the hot sun (on a 95+ degree July day) while driving his car whose airconditioning was broken, was a bad idea. After he delivered his sample, he did some chores and took his time coming home. At home, where I was really pretty out of it from the massive dose of twilight sleep they had given me, the phone kept ringing. I was too out of it to answer it or to hear the message (and hubby did not, at that time, have a cell phone.) It was the fertility clinic calling to say all the sperm were dead and he needed to come back ASAP to provide another sample. Hubby finally came home and almost immediately came back to me and said, "Honey, I need to go back to the clinic. Nothing to worry about. I'll be back later." He knew I'd be horrified thinking my eggs were lying there with no sperm to fertilize them, especially after going through the egg retrieval which isn't exactly a pleasant experience. So, he went back, did his contribution there in the office and amazingly, we had the best fertilization rate of any of the three IVFs. I was so proud of my hubby being able to contribute so soon after contributing earlier, and under such duress!!
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Old 09-22-2008, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Maine
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it is however incredibly embarrassing walking into the doctors office with a brown paper bag.
After a while the embarrassment ends and it's just another day in infertility. We went through it for two years. After a while you stop caring who sees your nether regions or paper bag as long as you get a baby in the end. We didn't. We got her, but not as a result of infertility treatments. Surprise! She's 15 now.

If you're overweight, lose it. Fat can coat ovaries and block eggs from being released. If you're having sex only on weekends (that's common) change your pattern to include week days too. Do a little research on positions, some are better than others. I don't want to get too graphic here. If you want to know more you can DM me. Endometriosis sometimes responds to birth control pills. Going on them for a year might be helpful though it seems counter productive.

There's a lot to treatment, it's expensive, it can be painful both physically and emotionally, it can have very unpleasant side effects. Twenty-three is young but I understand. When you want a baby now "keep trying" isn't the most welcome advice. I suggest not telling friends and family you're trying if you already haven't told them. Being asked is hard even when you know they mean well. My in-laws gave us a night in a hotel for Christmas then asked us in February if we had any news for them. They meant well.

Try not to let this consume your life. You do have lots of time. I know it's hard not to think about "did it work this time?" or "am I ovulating today?" all the time. Every time your breasts are tender you wonder if this is it. Five minutes late? MAYBE THIS TIME! Relax, do some research and look for a specialist who will work with you.
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Old 09-22-2008, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Northglenn, Colorado
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After a while the embarrassment ends and it's just another day in infertility. We went through it for two years. After a while you stop caring who sees your nether regions or paper bag as long as you get a baby in the end. We didn't. We got her, but not as a result of infertility treatments. Surprise! She's 15 now.

If you're overweight, lose it. Fat can coat ovaries and block eggs from being released. If you're having sex only on weekends (that's common) change your pattern to include week days too. Do a little research on positions, some are better than others. I don't want to get too graphic here. If you want to know more you can DM me. Endometriosis sometimes responds to birth control pills. Going on them for a year might be helpful though it seems counter productive.

There's a lot to treatment, it's expensive, it can be painful both physically and emotionally, it can have very unpleasant side effects. Twenty-three is young but I understand. When you want a baby now "keep trying" isn't the most welcome advice. I suggest not telling friends and family you're trying if you already haven't told them. Being asked is hard even when you know they mean well. My in-laws gave us a night in a hotel for Christmas then asked us in February if we had any news for them. They meant well.

Try not to let this consume your life. You do have lots of time. I know it's hard not to think about "did it work this time?" or "am I ovulating today?" all the time. Every time your breasts are tender you wonder if this is it. Five minutes late? MAYBE THIS TIME! Relax, do some research and look for a specialist who will work with you.
the above statement in bold is so true, once we let go of it controlling our lives, we had our daughter.
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Old 09-22-2008, 11:25 AM
 
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thanks for all the comments.
i dont really get consumed by it. i dont wonder every month if i am pregnant if i am late.
what i find more frustrating is the attitude of the people that are there to help-the doctors.
i am a healthy weight, i dont smoke, i rarely drink and i eat healthy.
we havent told anyone really that we are trying only one or two close friends.
i really dont want the constant questionning,even from those that mean well.
i think i just have to keep a positive attitude and count myself lucky for all i have already.
i know we have both said that if in a few years nothing has happened we would adopt.
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Old 09-22-2008, 11:57 AM
 
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My wife and I tried for years, with no success. I come from an Italian family who were pressuring me and my wife something fierce. Just as we gave up... it happened. The stress from trying to get pregnant is a major component in not getting pregnant. So try to relax, have you & your significant other go see a fertility specialist, and Google the subject.

My son is 18 years old (from her previous marriage) and my daughter is 6 years old. My step-son was two and a half when we began trying.

Be patient! Good luck!
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