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Old 06-15-2009, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Broward County
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I am 35, diagnosed with low testosterone by my doctor after complaining of fatigue, trouble sleeping, hard to lose fat, moodiness. He gave me a testosterone cream he custom orders from a compounding pharmacy. I apply it once a day to my forearms. I have a follow up visit in 2 months. I am paying 100 dollars for a 2 month supply. He advised against injections and said that injections are becoming obsolete because they cause a spike and then a dowturn....and injections are done every 2 weeks, which means the patient may begin to get symptomatic again before this next injection. Where as the creams and gels give a sustained time-released dose through daily application. I am hoping this stuff works as good as it's touted to be. Anyone else have experience with testosterone therapy ?
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Old 06-15-2009, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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I am 35, diagnosed with low testosterone by my doctor after complaining of fatigue, trouble sleeping, hard to lose fat, moodiness. He gave me a testosterone cream he custom orders from a compounding pharmacy. I apply it once a day to my forearms. I have a follow up visit in 2 months. I am paying 100 dollars for a 2 month supply. He advised against injections and said that injections are becoming obsolete because they cause a spike and then a dowturn....and injections are done every 2 weeks, which means the patient may begin to get symptomatic again before this next injection. Where as the creams and gels give a sustained time-released dose through daily application. I am hoping this stuff works as good as it's touted to be. Anyone else have experience with testosterone therapy ?
He prescribed hormone treatment based on those 4 symptoms alone?!!!
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Old 06-15-2009, 04:24 PM
 
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He prescribed hormone treatment based on those 4 symptoms alone?!!!

A simple blood workup will shoe testosterone levels. He probably did that.

I take DHEA every day. It definitely works !
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Old 06-15-2009, 07:32 PM
 
Location: orlando, fl
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Could you please post your bloodwork? I assuming that your doctor did a bloodwork t est for total testosterone, free testosterone, SHBG, e2, progesterone, LH, FSH, as well as testing your adrenals and thyroid. Did he mention if you have primary or secondary hypogonadism?

Creams contain testosterone with no ester, so it has a very short half-life, which leads to a spike. Applying twice daily can avoid this spike.
Injectibles are typically a cypionate or enanthate ester, which have a 10-12 day half life. Obviously injecting every 14 days for a substance with a 10-12 day half-life will lead to spikes. You should inject at least once a week, twice a week is optimal (especially if you are going above 100mg). As long as you are injecting on a normal schedule you will likely see much better results from the injectibles, though they can be a pain in the ass (pun intended).

Keep in mind that most general practitioners have very little expertise in TRT, some endocrinologists don't (they often specialize in diabetes or something much cooler), so don't hesitate to seek out someone who specializes in TRT if you feel that your doctor isn't up to speed on treatment options.
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Old 06-17-2009, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Broward County
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thanks for the tips ! My T count was 265....on the low side. Everything else was normal. My doctor is an endocronologist that specializes in hormone therapy.
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Old 06-17-2009, 03:23 PM
 
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You are still in a healthy range. Maybe you should try weight lifting. It raises T.

Along with that cream you'll be Navy Seal material !
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Old 06-17-2009, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Broward County
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no no...I am on the VERY low side and I am symptomatic. There are many doctors out there that don't realize patients are suffering from low T. I just read an excellent book from a Harvard doctor called TESTOSTERONE FOR LIFE and he says that if you are symptomatic and under 300 total T, then you should definitely be treated with T therapy. There are so many misdiagnosed people out there that would greatly benefit from T. Such a shame.
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Old 06-18-2009, 04:11 AM
 
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Did your doctor suggect zinc suppliments and stayin away from phyto-estrogen foods like soy ?
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Old 06-18-2009, 05:11 AM
 
Location: 95468
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The name for this is hypogonadism.
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Old 06-18-2009, 06:41 AM
 
Location: NJ
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I am 35, diagnosed with low testosterone by my doctor after complaining of fatigue, trouble sleeping, hard to lose fat, moodiness. He gave me a testosterone cream he custom orders from a compounding pharmacy. I apply it once a day to my forearms. I have a follow up visit in 2 months. I am paying 100 dollars for a 2 month supply. He advised against injections and said that injections are becoming obsolete because they cause a spike and then a dowturn....and injections are done every 2 weeks, which means the patient may begin to get symptomatic again before this next injection. Where as the creams and gels give a sustained time-released dose through daily application. I am hoping this stuff works as good as it's touted to be. Anyone else have experience with testosterone therapy ?
Have a look at this thread - I gave links to the Dr Phil show about this topic. You might be able to find the show on Dr Phil's youtube page. It was very informative.
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