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Old 11-23-2009, 05:07 PM
 
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For now...

"The remaining NON-FSC cigarette brands still available are: NATIVE, USA GOLD, and TAHOE Brand cigarettes."

They have to switch by the beginning of the year.
Although there are still some states that don't currently have FSC legislation in effect, that doesn't ensure that the cigarettes in that state don't contain FSC. Many manufacturers have gone to full FSC production/distribution since the regulation is in force in the majority of their markets.



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If I under correctly, rolling papers, or most of them, are non FSC. I've also read that this might change.
The cigarette tubes used by the do-it-yourselfers do not contain FSC, nor is there any legislation pending to enact it. I'd strongly encourage you, and others who wish to smoke non-FSC cigarettes, to visit this very informative and helpful site: RYO Cigarettes | Roll Your Own Cigarette Tobacco | RYO Revolution
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Old 11-23-2009, 05:13 PM
 
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This is from an old post of mine when there was a long thread about the new "safe" cigarettes.

They (American Spirit) use something called alginate which is a derivative of seaweed.
>>> Alginic acid, also called algin or alginate, is a viscous gum that is abundant in the cell walls of brown algae. ...
And the woman on the phone said she believes they use a bit of starch to hold the alginate together.
There are two little invisible bands around the cigarette.
She said you'd have to remove the tobacco and turn the paper inside out to see them ... or something like that.

Link to that old thread:
New fire-safe cigarettes. Are they SAFE??
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Old 11-24-2009, 02:22 AM
 
Location: Wherever I want to be... ;)
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First, please don't hate me...I'm a non-smoker. But I come in peace, I promise!

Anyhow, I just wanted to chime in and say that I read about this last week and WOW, what the hell?! My question is...how many fires can be attributed to people smoking/from a lit cigarette? It seems like the number has to be small. And, also, are these cigarettes made to prevent things like brush fires (i.e., if thrown from a car) or just for man-made materials (i.e., bedding, drywall)?
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Old 11-24-2009, 04:37 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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I switched to Murano Light 100 cigars when the FSC cigs came into effect.
I wont smoke that crap.
Murano is only $11.00 a carton plus tax. A carton costs me less than $12.00.
They are like cigs and about as strong as a medium flavor cig.
I live in Ohio and dont know how available they are in other places.
I get them at a smoke shop. They aren't sold in stores.
I thought about rolling my own but these are even cheaper than that and they don't have the FSC bull****.
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Old 11-24-2009, 07:49 AM
 
Location: home state of Myrtle Beach!
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I switched to Murano Light 100 cigars when the FSC cigs came into effect.
I wont smoke that crap.
Murano is only $11.00 a carton plus tax. A carton costs me less than $12.00.
They are like cigs and about as strong as a medium flavor cig.
I live in Ohio and dont know how available they are in other places.
I get them at a smoke shop. They aren't sold in stores.
I thought about rolling my own but these are even cheaper than that and they don't have the FSC bull****.
What brand of cigs did you smoke previously, Robhu?

I might give that a try just for the price.

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First, please don't hate me...I'm a non-smoker. But I come in peace, I promise!

Anyhow, I just wanted to chime in and say that I read about this last week and WOW, what the hell?! My question is...how many fires can be attributed to people smoking/from a lit cigarette? It seems like the number has to be small. And, also, are these cigarettes made to prevent things like brush fires (i.e., if thrown from a car) or just for man-made materials (i.e., bedding, drywall)?
I would imagine it's to prevent all fires where a cigarette was involved but I have heard that smoker's are burning themselves trying to smoke them and that's just wrong. I believe the news was that these cigarettes would prevent the untimely death of about 1,000 lives.
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Old 11-24-2009, 08:27 AM
 
Location: In the real world!
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I would imagine it's to prevent all fires where a cigarette was involved but I have heard that smoker's are burning themselves trying to smoke them and that's just wrong. I believe the news was that these cigarettes would prevent the untimely death of about 1,000 lives.
As compared to how many deaths cause by this new chemical they are putting in the cigarettes?.... Time will tell on that..

What they should be doing is getting chemicals OUT of cigarettes, not adding more to them. I have read somewhere on the internet that smoking related deaths are higher in the USA than anywhere.. we also add more chemicals than any other country... So, if we won't quit smoking, they can just kill us off?

While I am here, people who complainer about smokers have some nerve in my view. WHEN have you ever heard there was a ozone alert because to many smokers were outside smoking. You CAN get away from cigarette smoke but WHERE can you go to get away from car fumes? THAT should be a LOT bigger issue than someone smoking. Cigarettes seem like a awfully small issue compared to car fumes and the impact that is having on the air we breathe.
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Old 11-24-2009, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Sneads Ferry NC/Randolph NJ/Cape Coral FL
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Hmm you know hubbie has been complaining lately and I never added it up..will have to read up on this....dam crack heads that can't remember they have a lit cigarette
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Glen Burnie, Maryland
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These are the only cigarettes sold in Maryland now (about a year). It took a while, but I've gotten used to them. One thing I do hate about them is, if you happen to not take a drag for 30 seconds or so, they burn out and lighting it back up is kinda nasty because you have this hard lump of ash at the end.

Adding more chemicals is a concern and I have actually bought an E-Cigarette. I haven't quite made the transition yet, but I hope to soon.
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:26 AM
 
Location: home state of Myrtle Beach!
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As compared to how many deaths cause by this new chemical they are putting in the cigarettes?.... Time will tell on that..

What they should be doing is getting chemicals OUT of cigarettes, not adding more to them. I have read somewhere on the internet that smoking related deaths are higher in the USA than anywhere.. we also add more chemicals than any other country... So, if we won't quit smoking, they can just kill us off?

While I am here, people who complainer about smokers have some nerve in my view. WHEN have you ever heard there was a ozone alert because to many smokers were outside smoking. You CAN get away from cigarette smoke but WHERE can you go to get away from car fumes? THAT should be a LOT bigger issue than someone smoking. Cigarettes seem like a awfully small issue compared to car fumes and the impact that is having on the air we breathe.
I wonder how many chemicals go into those cigars that were mentioned a few posts back? And too how does the tax compare against cigarettes. You make a lot of good points that smokers have been making for years but the non's just push them off.
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Old 11-24-2009, 12:11 PM
 
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Murano is only $11.00 a carton plus tax. A carton costs me less than $12.00.
They are light cigs and about as strong as a medium flavor cig.
I thought about rolling my own but these are even cheaper than that and they don't have the FSC bull****.
In terms of cost, it is still possible to RYO for slightly less than what you're currently paying. But even better, with RYO you'll be getting real tobacco, unlike the stuff in the premade cigarettes, which is essentially reconstituted sheet powder sprayed with all kinds of interesting chemicals which likely pose an even greater risk to one's health than the FSC paper.

Try this experiment, break apart one of your premade cigarettes that you've purchased and compare the appearance of that tobacco to one of the RYO tobacco's. It will be crystal clear to you which tobacco is of superior quality. If our(RYO people) tobacco degrades to the point that it looks like the stuff in a commercially made cigarette, we call it "shake" and we throw it out!
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