Depression: Support, Advice, Help, Treatment Options (daily basis, B12, vitamin, remedies)

[SaveMtns]

Originally Posted by yogikarategirl

Jessaka, wondering why you are not a Buddhist anymore? Yea, I understand the positive thinking stuff and all - "change the way you look at things and the things you look at change" - Dr. Wayne Dyer. What I have a problem with the positive thiinking stuff is what if a situation really is negative, like what if a person is in an unhealthy relationship but they just keep thinking positive and stay. When do you put the positive thinking aside and see a negative situation for what it is?

yogikarategirl - this is such a good point. It is a struggle sometimes to face the reality of things enough to act on them, without being sucked into being completely overcome and depressed by them

I've always been a 'glass half-full' kind of person, but sometimes that's not enough...I have to see it for what it is, and DO something about whatever is depressing me. I do this with varying levels of success...

[GreenMachine]

Originally Posted by yogikarategirl

Jessaka, wondering why you are not a Buddhist anymore? Yea, I understand the positive thinking stuff and all - "change the way you look at things and the things you look at change" - Dr. Wayne Dyer. What I have a problem with the positive thiinking stuff is what if a situation really is negative, like what if a person is in an unhealthy relationship but they just keep thinking positive and stay. When do you put the positive thinking aside and see a negative situation for what it is?

I think I can try and answer this one:

Pushing away negative thoughts is not the same thing as being in denial. In Buddhism, you recognize that bad things exist, but you do not obsess on them and let them grow bigger in your mind. It also doesn't mean that you have to stay in an unhealthy relationship. Someone who stays in a bad relationships does so because of an unhealthy attachments. And they are trying to avoid having to suffer the pain of loss. Loss is inevitable. All things are temporary. Buddhism teaches us to accept the temporary state of all things and not to become attached.

[yogikarategirl]

That's good - thank you

[Mattie Jo]

Yogi, It is a long story as to why I am not in Buddhism. I will try to keep it short.

In some ways I couldn't connect to the lack of God in Buddhism, but then I believe in God in the Hindu way, especially in the quantum physics way of there being only One Consciousness and we are all part of that, including all that exists, and that isn't that far off from Buddhism. But I also found their books so boring and hard to understand, which may be why they bored me and why I couldn't keep trying to read them.

When I first came to Buddhism I was very upset with Hinduism, with the way gurus treated disciples. I came there to find peace. I wanted so much to tell my story, but they taught me to let it go, and as I did I found I wasn't so upset with the Hindu gurus.

Then I learned of the dangers of meditation, and that rather scared me off. So I began doing a research to learn more of the dangers of meditation, and that bothered me even more. But I see no danger in training the mind to think positive.

When I came to Buddhism I was very burned out on religion, and I remained so throughout the 3 1/2 years that I attended the monastery. I had just lost interest. I would still be going there because I loved the Vietnamese people and the peacefulness there in that there was a lack of strife and the masters always remained calm and kind to all, plus the Vietnamese food was wonderful. LOL. And I did enjoy the dharma talks as they were at least at my level of understanding. But I moved away, and there are no Buddhist groups here. Yet I no longer read Buddhist books nor meditate, nor do I read any spiritual books. If I ever go back to meditation it will be the method of just watching your breath. It is at least something I think about. It is probably the least dangerous of all meditations.

[CosmicWizard]

Although poor nutrition is a contributing factor to depression it is only part of the picture. While exercising and cleaning up your diest along with taking good supplements is helpful, unless you change your thought process too, the depression won't go away. Here is a link to a depression oriented website that helped me tremendously a few years ago. I encourage you to read the books written by this author. It will change the way you look at depression and take away much of the anxiety that often comes with being depressed.

Additionally, I strongly encourage you to learn one or both of these simple energy based techniques ( EFT and TAT ) for dealing with your depression. Both of these websites offer FREE downloads including the steps for doing the process. On the EFT website there are links to many articles specifically concerning depression.

Jessaka....If you take the time to learn about EFT & TAT, you will see that they both have a way of working with the negative rather than denying it or pretending it doesn't exist. IMO, it allows for much faster progress, and it removes tons of guilt that usually accompanies the awareness of negative thoughts.

blessings...Franco

[Roma]

Originally Posted by Autumn07

Is anyone else here going through depression?

Yes, I am right now.

I want to move back to California and my husband want something else. I've also just talked to a long ago ex boyfriend and I've been crying all week.
I've always had spouts of depression and I've been on medication for it. Sometimes I have it and sometimes I don't. But unfortunately, I have it now.

[GreenMachine]

Originally Posted by NewAgeRedneck

Although poor nutrition is a contributing factor to depression it is only part of the picture. While exercising and cleaning up your diest along with taking good supplements is helpful, unless you change your thought process too, the depression won't go away. Here is a link to a depression oriented website that helped me tremendously a few years ago. I encourage you to read the books written by this author. It will change the way you look at depression and take away much of the anxiety that often comes with being depressed.

Additionally, I strongly encourage you to learn one or both of these simple energy based techniques ( EFT and TAT ) for dealing with your depression. Both of these websites offer FREE downloads including the steps for doing the process. On the EFT website there are links to many articles specifically concerning depression.

Jessaka....If you take the time to learn about EFT & TAT, you will see that they both have a way of working with the negative rather than denying it or pretending it doesn't exist. IMO, it allows for much faster progress, and it removes tons of guilt that usually accompanies the awareness of negative thoughts.

blessings...Franco

I'm a bit skeptical of that website! It's written by someone who thinks that open heart surgery can be performed under hypnosis....This fellow just seems a little too far out there for me.

[yhwhshalomjr]

Originally Posted by Autumn07

Is anyone else here going through depression?

I hope you're not still depressed, but here's a couple of around the house
remedies, I posted this in another thread, I don't remember right now which one but
Hot chocolate made from cocoa powder- omit the milk
(and the sugar if you can stomach it) do this every morning (does something to serotonin.
Sublingual B complex
A lot of turkey..............real not processed
Research Serotonin this may be your problem low levels of it or fluctuating
levels of serotonin.
In the body, serotonin is synthesized from the amino acid tryptophan by a short metabolic pathway consisting of two enzymes – tryptophan.( found in turkey)
Then you focus much better on what you want to do next. It's pretty challenging to think "positive thoughts" when you are depressed, if you fail at this method, it is likely that you will sink into a mode of despair
Hope you feel better
God Bless

[CosmicWizard]

GreeMachine wrote:

I'm a bit skeptical of that website! It's written by someone who thinks that open heart surgery can be performed under hypnosis....This fellow just seems a little too far out there for me.

I gave links to 3 websites, so I have no way of knowing with certainty which one you are referring to, so I'll rely upon guess technology. The depression site belongs to a woman, as does the TAT website, so that leaves the EFT website which is authored by Gary Craig.

Have you actually USED the EFT technique? The reason I have repeadetly recommended his website is becasue I have used it almost daily for 2 years and it has helped me tremendously. Many thousands of others have benefitted as well. Until you have practiced EFT for a period of time and you know beyond a shadow of doubt that it doesn't work for you, I encourage you not to throw the baby out with the bathwater, and more importantly I encourage you not to project a negative vibe on it that might keep others from benefitting.

I can't help but wonder why you think that open heart surgery couldn't be performed under hypnosis ( not that I'd want to try it out any time soon ). Stranger things have happened! EFT is not about performing open heart surgery anyway. EFT is a simple and very effective technique for handling emotional overloads of all kind...including depression.

blessings...Franco

[GreenMachine]

Hi Everyone,

My depression is lifting. Here's what I've done:

1) Remove sugar and starch from my diet. Huge change immediately. Breads and pasta were creating a vicious cycle of eating and more eating, sleeping and lethargy, and feeling worse and worse.

2) Stop focusing on negative thoughts. Another huge difference. If a bad thought enters my head, for example something that happened to me as a child or someone who did me wrong, I allow the thought to float through my mind as opposed to letting it take up residence and multiply. Sometimes I'm more firm and say, "No, I am not going think about this!" It works. It's not that hard to do, and now the positive thoughts have more room to grown. (It's sort of like weeding a garden.)

3) Think positive reaffirming thoughts. I want to buy a car and drive across country. I picture me having the car, packing up my stuff and driving over the snow covered Rockies. I picture myself in my new home, nice and cozy. Yes, I tell myself, it is all going to happen, and why shouldn't it?

4) Exercise. I got a pair of running shoes and have taken up jogging again. I can't go very far, maybe only a mile, but the sweat and fresh evening air feel terrific.

Greenie