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Old 04-13-2011, 06:06 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Why shouldn't Germans have a say who is in THEIR country most Germans supported Hitler,...
German Jews were German. It was their country too, and many of them had fought for Germany in World War I. You are attempting to defend the indefensible.
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Old 04-14-2011, 09:40 AM
 
Location: TMI
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German Jews were German. It was their country too, and many of them had fought for Germany in World War I. You are attempting to defend the indefensible.
Not even sure how he comes to the conclusion that "most Germans" supported him when he was not evene elected. He was appointed, and the NSDAP did not win the elections. Of course, once he got into office there weren't any more elections...

Only uneducated people would even try to compare Nazis and Communists. Nazis were much, much worse. Can't believe someone even asked this.
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Old 04-17-2011, 07:51 AM
 
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The Communists were much worse on the world.
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Old 04-17-2011, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
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The Communists were much worse on the world.

Maybe but think about how bad the Nazis would've been on the world if they hadn't been defeated by........the Communists. Things could've been worse.
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Old 04-19-2011, 03:24 AM
 
Location: Belgium
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Don't know if it's been brought up already, but I would have preferred being a native German under Nazi rule than a native Soviet under Stalin/ native Chinese under Mao/ native Cambodian under Pol Pot...
Being a native Deutsche gave one, imho, a certain amount of legal security no communist subject could dream to acquire.
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Old 04-19-2011, 07:01 PM
 
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Don't know if it's been brought up already, but I would have preferred being a native German under Nazi rule than a native Soviet under Stalin/ native Chinese under Mao/ native Cambodian under Pol Pot...
Being a native Deutsche gave one, imho, a certain amount of legal security no communist subject could dream to acquire.
That is until you were a "native Deutsche" sent to the Eastern front circa 1941-1945 you know...
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Old 04-19-2011, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Sure, in general a native non-Jewish German living under Hitler was probably better off than a native Russian living under Stalin, but let's not forget that both were police states. If you were anti-Nazi you had to go to extreme lengths to keep that fact secret. For a personal account of an anti-Nazi family, see Dance on the Volcano: A Teenage Girl in Nazi Germany by Renata Zerner, published within the last year. The author is still living and lives in the Los Angeles area.
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Old 04-19-2011, 07:57 PM
 
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Sure, in general a native non-Jewish German living under Hitler was probably better off than a native Russian living under Stalin,
The life of "native Russians" living under Stalin could be *variable* ( although quite unpredictable I must admit,) whereas the life of a "native German" under Hitler became quite predictable around 1941 I suppose...
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Old 04-20-2011, 12:47 AM
 
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That much is true. I remember reading a story about 1,000? Jews being taken by German crew on a ship to US. They were trying to deliver them to safety.
US refused to accept them, so Germans had to turn back to Europe. Few different countries gave them asylum, but sure enough many of them were taken to concentration camps after these countries were invaded. ( Except for England of course)
This is why you can't SOLELY blame Hitler/the Nazis for the murder of Jews. I think Hitler would have been happy with just deporting them all, but they kept sending them back! America and every other country that did not accept the Jewish refugees should be ashamed.
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Old 04-20-2011, 06:36 AM
 
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Communist are far worse, more so because they are still alive and kicking.
Our academia and media are staffed by many venerable "gauche divine" "progressives" that distribute medals of "political correctness" that still believe that Stalin and Castro are the salvation of humanity.
In Spain the situation is extreme, we have a lot of those progressives trying to rewrite history to make appear communists and socialists as "democratic victims" and not as the true origin of our civil war.
Communist and their regurgitated parties that mixed fake ecological ideas and crackpotish ideologies are a big problem here.
I'm in favour of banning them, just as they did with nazi parties.
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