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Old 04-11-2012, 02:59 PM
 
Location: On the Ohio River in Western, KY
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Cool. His bloodline lives on..I hope this is true.
What exactly do you mean by this?

What's "cool" about it?

Why do you hope this is true?
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Old 04-11-2012, 03:21 PM
 
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What exactly do you mean by this?

What's "cool" about it?

Why do you hope this is true?
Good old RPON is no longer with us. My guess for why he thought it was "cool" probably had something to do with him wanting Hitlers descendants to come and rule over his trailer park.
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Old 04-11-2012, 08:14 PM
 
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That's another guy, though. He must have impregnated 2 French women then.
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Old 04-11-2012, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Mammoth Lakes, CA
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The man who broke this story in 1978 was someone I met and knew casually as an undergrad in the early 1980s (Werner Maser). The story was completely debunked at the time. Loret himself underwent DNA analysis before his death. He was not the son of Hitler.

There is NO respected historian of Hitler who ever even put this apocyhryphal nonsense in their Hitler bios. Maser was a very iconoclastic person with no academic background and he publicized the story to make money. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Old 04-11-2012, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Anyone with two brain cells to rub together could have bothered to read this eloquent refutation:

Jean-Marie Loret - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I guess The Telepgraph couldn't be bothered with facts.
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:53 AM
 
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The man who broke this story in 1978 was someone I met and knew casually as an undergrad in the early 1980s (Werner Maser). The story was completely debunked at the time. Loret himself underwent DNA analysis before his death. He was not the son of Hitler.
The DNA analysis that was done was not conclusive and was simply left as Loret could be Hitlers child, but it was not possible to prove it conclusively. The later DNA testing done by the Belgium group was done clandestinely in that they stole cigarette butts from Hitler relatives in Austria, a fast food napkin from the ones in the states and supposedly lifted saliva off of envelopes in France. They concluded that Loret was NOT a part of the Hitler clan, but all the work was done by an amateur historian and a journalist.

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There is NO respected historian of Hitler who ever even put this apocyhryphal nonsense in their Hitler bios. Maser was a very iconoclastic person with no academic background and he publicized the story to make money. Nothing more, nothing less.
This is true, no one except Maser includes it in their biographies, but some have certainly entertained the discussion as something we will probably never know for sure.

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Anyone with two brain cells to rub together could have bothered to read this eloquent refutation:

Jean-Marie Loret - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I guess The Telepgraph couldn't be bothered with facts.
The wiki article was hardly a refutiation of the claim. It basically says that Loret made the claim, some dispute it, but it's ultimately impossible to prove.

The Telegraph article was picking up on an article written by Le Point (which is similar to Time or Newsweek in the US) in France based on research done at the University of Heidelburg that said Loret and Hitler had the same blood type, shared some genetic markers, had "familial" handwriting styles and had uncovered records of payments supposedly made to Lorets mother during WW2.

You can chalk this up to being the story that doesn't die. Is there irrefutable proof he was Hitlers love child, no. Is there irrefutable proof he wasn't, no. Does it really matter at all outside of being a curiosity in terms of who Hitler was or the historical record, not really.
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