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Old 04-19-2015, 07:44 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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I will say the Great Depression but what about the Gilded Age of the late 19th century where our Presidents did next-to-nothing and all of the social justice issues in the country.
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Old 04-20-2015, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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I will say the Great Depression but what about the Gilded Age of the late 19th century where our Presidents did next-to-nothing and all of the social justice issues in the country.
"Social Justice" is little more than a prettied-up ephenism for Marxism, or its little brother, socialism; as a society becomes more stable and prosperous, it can develop via nothing more than the free exchange of human opinion and commerce, but only via the private sector, where those who seek to make a career of irresponsibility can be "weeded out".

Anything more is just legailized thievery.
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Old 04-21-2015, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Sandpoint, Idaho
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I keep running across this meme that the current state of the nation is at its worst point in history. Unfortunately all of these observations have an underlying political agenda which is fine when it comes to political arguments, but lacks foundation in the historical record.

This being the history forum and considering the higher level of debate that takes place here, I am hoping, that we can have an honest and historical discussion to put the present circumstances into its proper historical perspective.

To begin with, I think that any discussion today claiming that the current status of the nation is the worst in the nation's history while at the same at time the nation is commemorating the Bicentennial of the War of 1812 and the Sesquicentennial of the Civil War to be, on the face of it, a risible argument and one that need not be rehashed here.

I also find equally, ahistorical to claim that the national debt combined with the so-called challenges to American power by China and a resurgent Russia to be greater than the financial and geo-political conditions faced by the nation in period between 1940 and 1945 when nation still recovering from the Great Depression, federal debt that rose to over 120% of GDP and the nation confronted actively hostile, not potential, actions of Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany to be more than a tad disingenuous,

With regard to hostilities and divisions within the body public, I ask that we consider those divisions within the context of the periods of 1965 to 1972, the labor wars between during the later part of the 19th century and the early years of the 20th. And as far as politics are concern, let us consider the election battles between Jefferson v Adams, 1800, Jackson v J.Q. Adams 1828, Cleveland v Blaine, 1884, Hoover v Smith, 1928 (if you like you can add Johnson v Goldwater, 1964). I also hasten to add, that it has been a long time since a former Secretary of the Treasury was involved in a duel with a sitting Vice President - Cheney hunting parties notwithstanding.

I propose this discussion not with the intent of glossing over the present circumstances of the country but rather to put it in historical perspective so on the off chance that anyone should choose to honestly discuss the present circumstances at least the debate will have a rational and historical basis.

Thank you.
(1) 1861-1865. Civil War. The South will never recover.
(2) 1930-1938. Great Depression; Dust Bowl
(3) 1848-1861. The post-Mexican War march toward Civil War
(4) 1968-1980. Vietnam war tearing at soul of country; Stagflation; Recession; Weakness under Carter; Post-Vietnam war.
(5) Other post war adjustments
a. 1782-1787. Recession. New nation sink or swim. Article of Confederation falling apart.
b. 1865-1880s. Indian Wars. Reconstruction. Corruption. Beginning of Mass Immigration. Transition from Slavery to Jim Crow
c. 1918-1921. Post WW1 Recession. Urban racial strife.
d. 1945-1950, Post WW2 Recession. Urban racial strife.
(6) 1993- present. Post Clinton era. Loss of US hegemonic power; sullying of White House; Lies from Dick Cheney and Co.; Obama, a President who wants to see the US take a bended knee and own up to her past by sacrificing the present; Dot Com bubble burst; 2008-2011 Financial crisis; Many Wars for what now seems to be dubious aims.

S.
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Old 04-27-2015, 02:26 PM
 
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I don't think anyone has mentioned Hurricane Katrina. Wherever one stands on the racial issues, the embarrassing lack of response really broke the nation's psyche, and probably continued in some way to boom/bust economy as it started to slide into the Great Recession in 2007. Though there has been recovery, it has been limited to very specific industries and geographies.
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Old 05-04-2015, 04:20 AM
 
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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The worst period for who, the winners or the losers?
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Old 05-06-2015, 01:36 AM
 
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1. American Revolution- in the early days of the war we were getting our butts kicked by the British.
2. The War of 1812- British Invasion almost resulted in the destruction of our country.
3. Civil War- Our country was killing itself, but no matter which side won, we would still exist.
4. Articles of Confederation/pre-Consitution years- our economy was a disaster.
5. Reconstruction Years and Depression- Impacted the South primarily
6. Great Depression- Economic catastrophe that lasted 12 years.
7. The late 60's/early 70's with Vietnam War protests and Civil Rights movements. Our country was divided.
8. September 11th, 2001 events and subsequent wars
9. Current economic crisis that began in 2007 with the housing bubble burst and persists today with high unemployment.
10. 1970's and early 1980's economy- From the Arab Oil Embargoes to the Ford/Carter inflation to the Reagan Recession.
This is the perfect answer/assessment IMHO. Bravo!
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Old 01-08-2018, 08:30 PM
 
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I think the late 1980S and early 1990's

violent crime was at its highest in American history because of the crack cocaine epidemic.
Rodney king riots were the costliest and biggest civil riots in american history.
most american cities during this era looked post apocalyptic. graffitti on subways. gangs everywhere.
then there was the generation X latchkey generation basically roaming the streets and raising themselves because the boomers barely made ends meet.

it's a time thats america likes to either downplay or forgot.
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Old 01-08-2018, 09:46 PM
 
Location: The High Desert
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Life has never been a bed of roses for everyone in the US. Immigrants always struggled for a generation or two. Slavery and post-slavery was an awful existence for African Americans. Disease was rampant in the cities and took the lives of thousands of soldiers in the Civil War (as if bloodshed and mayhem wasn’t enough). The Indians were dispossessed and confined to reservations and subjected to cultural genocide and starvation. I think a case can be made for the period stretching from about 1860 through the end of the Great Depression— roughly 80 years — as the worst in a broad brush sense. The dust bowl drove people off their farms and into poverty. Immigrants left horrid conditions in Europe only to die from TB in city tenements. Labor unions were trying to combat worker exploitation or and improve working conditions but were met with stiff opposition and occasional military or police intervention or abuse. Anarchists were gaining some boldness and obstructing life and commerce in some cities. Jim Crow laws and organized anti-Black violence by the KKK or similar groups was widespread including lynchings. Financial panics and the Great Depression were destroying what wealth the formerly fortunate had acquired. Of course there was also WW-I and then the Spanish flu pandemic. Prohibition and the “Red Scare” didn’t help matters any. Just about everyone in the US population at that 80 year period had some sort of awful experience at some time. I’m not sure the same can be said for the periods before and after that stretch of time.
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Old 01-08-2018, 10:12 PM
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Location: The New England part of Ohio
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I think the late 1980S and early 1990's

violent crime was at its highest in American history because of the crack cocaine epidemic.
Rodney king riots were the costliest and biggest civil riots in american history.
most american cities during this era looked post apocalyptic. graffitti on subways. gangs everywhere.
then there was the generation X latchkey generation basically roaming the streets and raising themselves because the boomers barely made ends meet.

it's a time thats america likes to either downplay or forgot.

Defiantly the Reagan era ushered in some unpleasantness. The "Rodney King Riots"? I recall that as the time the police beat the crap out of a man, and somehow, were acquitted of viciously beating a man, although the beating was caught on tape.

That's how I remember that.

Anyway, I would say right now, since 45 has been in office, there have been increases in white supremacist groups, school yard (and other types) of violence, hate crimes and more.
THIS is the worst time I have seen in American history.
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Old 01-09-2018, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Inland FL
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1850s-1860s
1920s-1945
1963-1970s
the last 17 years since 2001
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