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Old 04-24-2013, 01:48 PM
Location: NE Mississippi
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Originally Posted by NickL28 View Post
The dot com craze gave everyone a false feeling of success?..............
Yeah, that's pretty much how I remember it. I have a good friend who is a doctor and wherever we went people smiled and asked him how he was doing in the market. One time, I was in his office on a health call and he turned his monitor so I could see, and showed me how much money he had made THAT DAY. It was nutty, looking back.

I don't live in an area that had a housing boom, so I didn't feel that as much. My sister lived in California, though, and she was all caught up in it. First she was taking wheelbarrows full of money home every month as a realtor, then she was investing. Now, she just holds her head in her hands and moans a lot.

And her boyfriend got it even worse. Once, he had a property worth a million bucks. Wouldn't sell. Nope, gonna keep it and make some real money. We're talking about a guy who never really had a really great job; just got by, is all.
Now, the property can't be sold at all. He has no job, no money. He's hurtin.

Sis moved to be "closer to her daughter". And moan.

Old 04-24-2013, 06:17 PM
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1987-1993 is the glue that attaches the "true Reagan 80's" to the "Clinton 90's". I like the very early 90's (January 1, 1990 - December 31, 1992) the best. It was a fun time if people payed attention to it. Like the actual 90's (January 1, 1993 - December 31, 1999), it set up the 2000's. Shrek the book was released in 1990. It is conjoined to the late 80's because it still sets up the mid 90's (1993-1996).

I hated 1993 because it ruined everything we had in the early 90's. It was the final stage to '89-'93 setup. After the first WTC bombing attempt, some Americans lost the pride they had in '91/'92. I hated that at the time. More people began thrift store shopping for the ultimate anti-fashion costume in 1993. In the very early 90's, YOU HAD TO WEAR LOGOS (Bongo, Quiksilver, Gotcha, Rude Dog)! That coupled with Snoop Doggy Dogg's solo release made '93 very crimson. For that very reason, 1993 is mid 90's.

The very early 90's had something for everyone. Parents got to wear neon pink hats, white shirts, and neon green suspenders with their Levi's. Teenagers wore Z. Cavaricci from head to toe. They rocked out to Paula Abdul, MC Hammer, C&C Music Factory and anything from Club MTV, Saturday Morning or Friday Night Videos, Dance Party USA, or The Party Machine. Children wore Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles shirts or those tees with stripes (both thin and thick) everywhere.

The late 80's set up the very early 90's to the late 90's. The very early 90's were always more memorable than the late 80's. How can you forget "Fear of a Black Planet", The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air theme, The Rocketeer, Homie D. Clown, the Super Soaker 100, and the Dream Team?

Late '92 was a transitional time. I loved it, nonetheless. It was still a part of the 1989-1993 era. Young Indiana Jones was on the tube because of River Phoenix's part in The Last Crusade. Malcom Jamal Warner was still on NBC in the fall of '92. Commercials from '87 were still being shown in '92. Acid Wash jeans were around until the start of 1993. So, 1992 was very 80's in a way. '92 was about the 80's crowd making a change. Some people still had crimped hair. '93 was when we officially entered the 90's. Pop culture was dead, like it is today, in 1993.

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Old 05-01-2013, 12:33 PM
Location: Chicago, IL
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I'm glad someone mentioned the early 90s intellectual east coast rap. That was something I loved about the early 90s (the fashion though is laughably bad looking back on it), though once Snoop Dog got big I really didn't like rap, I guess it alienated the white audience by that time by being so focused on the hood (Discovering alternative hip hop by the mid 00s really brought me back to that time).

Right around the time the Golden age of rap was fading (at least as I saw it) Rock music became really good for a few years (started around 1991, but really took off by 1993) with grunge, then everything turned to crap by 1997. 1997 rock was marginalized and the first wave of really dumb pop music (Spice Girls/Hanson) took over, MTV stopped showing music videos, and this really gaudy materialist culture took over from about 1999-2004. It was a really terrible time in pop culture. Oh and increasingly overwrought Nu Metal, which was agnsty just for the sake of being agnsty almost creating this pop agnst. Because of all of this, I wound up digging a bit into the alternative (or indie because alternative is what top 40 was still called) by the early 00s (which was easier with the growth of the Internet) and consequently that became kind of mainstreamish after 2004. I kind of wish I was a teenager in a different era.

Though to be honest after 2004, I think the world wasn't dominated by one style, I think subcultures really started to develop, bros vs hipsters vs nerd vs emo etc, I think this was due to the Internet making culture more organic than the top down control from record/media/fashion companies in the 1980s and 1990s.

Its been interesting seeing how things evolved in pop culture as I approach 30, I'm wondering when I'll completely loose sight of it.

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Old 05-01-2013, 12:45 PM
Location: Chicago, IL
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A few weird observations in my travels:

*The 90s skateboard kid is still alive in California... sunglasses bright colors and of course a skateboard.
*Old working class ladies dress in the Grunge style still in the Pacific Northwest - open flannel shirts and jeans that really amused me.
*Seattle still has a very mid-90s vibe to it, (good to compare to the more contemporary hipstery Portland) can't quite place it.
Old 05-04-2013, 07:41 PM
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music went to shyt in the late 80's and hasnt got any better

the baggy jeans is about the dumbest thing i've ever seen

I clearly remember '87-88 I was in my mid 20's and livin the single life with my buddies- its funny, we reminisced about the good music of the 60's and 70's at the time,,we made "tapes" tdk and memorex of the doors, stones, pink floyd and led zep
yep i wore corderoys and dungarees in the early 80's by '90 it was chinos/dockers and jeans

in '87 i was going to college at night and a buddy loaned me an apple 2 computer for computer class

in 1980 we were playing atari on a black and white tv....didnt have cable yet-we did in 1981- then we got more than 3 channels... I had a car that took 8 tracks
Old 05-04-2013, 08:52 PM
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1990 was more 80's than each individual year before then. In '90, we had the Ducktales, Chucky, Robocop, the Young Guns, the Re-Animator, Another 48 Hrs, Tales from the Darkside and the Predator in Theaters. The other years of the 90's followed suit. There was a sequel in Theaters for almost every year of the 1990s. 1990 had the most of the 80's all in that year. There was some slipping from late '90 (Aug '90-Dec '90) to '93. The early 90's can be broken into four eras really. There is the late '89/early '90 era when we focused on Loma, Berlin Wall, Batman, Milli Vanilli, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles,Doogie Howser MD, and Pat Sejak. Next, the late '90/early '91 era which gave us Tony Toni Tone, Tiny Toon Adventures, Home Alone, Skidz, Fresh Prince of Bel Air, and Disney Afternoon. Shortly after that, there is late '91/early '92 with Nirvana, The Addams Family, Home Improvement, Trolls, Crystal Pepsi, Starter gear, beepers, and Pop Qwiz popcorn. Lastly, we have late '92/early '93 which has Reservior Dogs, Bongo Jeans, Aladdin, Picket Fences, Barney the Dinosaur, Spin Doctors, and Bill Clinton. Every year of the early 90's was an extension to the whole '87-'89 period. That is why they are "the late 80's early 90's". The "late 80's early 90's" are that - between '86 and '94 (The Pure 80's - The Pure 90's).

1993 was more early 90's than the three years before it. 1993 has Wayne's World 3, Robocop 3, TMNT 3, Addams Family Values, Sister Act 2, and City Slickers 2 (I think). 1993 was definately 90's. There were not anymore introductions to characters through film. Hollywood has been in trouble ever since '93. So, yes, 1990-December 31, 1992 was a lot like the 80's.
Old 05-05-2013, 02:04 AM
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Yes. Early 90's was about being silly and not taking yourself too seriously, a staple of the 80's. Mid 90's is when Rap started to kick into gear and that's when everything went down hill.

Clueless came out in 1995. Image started to matter.
Old 05-05-2013, 07:55 AM
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I still can't believe that transition happened as quickly as it did. The summer of 1993 was the summer of Snoop Dogg. In the year before then, 1992, we had the summer of Sir Mix A Lot. I have friends who personally believe that Sir Mix A Lot put that song out in 1989. It happened so quickly. I know The Chronic was released in December of '92, but not many people payed attention to it. The Chronic was more of an early '93 thing. MTV used to show Vanilla Ice, Sir Mix A Lot, and then Snoop & Dre. "Nothing but a G Thang" might have been played so much that you felt you were a member of their gang just sitting back and listening to it.

1993 was the first year of the 1990's. It was the first year we had Bill in office. Many 80's fans will claim the change occurred in 1992. They could not believe that some Reganites started to become Democrats. Clinton was elected in late '92. That is only one small fraction of '92. Most of '92 was not completely 90's. There were some changes in 1992. We went from watching horror like Dr. Giggles to serious stuff like Candyman. Candyman was scarier than anything out there today.1992 was the last year to be mixed with 80's and 90's stuff in it. 1993, from beginning to end, was year of Gangsta rap and grunge. You could not get away from that at the time. The innocence of the years '90, '91, and '92 were gone. Those years had problems in them, too. The problems of '93 were more severe. If America had only payed attention to the first attempt to bomb the WTC, we would be a better nation now. It's funny, 1993 is now twenty years old. After 9/11, it does not seem to old.

Jurassic Park does not look much different than any other CGI big budget popcorn film. The movies of the very early 90's had characters in them. My Cousin Vinny, Edward Scissorhands, Niño Brown, Kevin McCallister, and Darkman were all awesome. The very early 90's (90,91, and 92) had a spirit to them the 80's had. They had "teen spirit". It was still okay to wear swatches back then.
Old 05-05-2013, 08:21 AM
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The stars of the very early 90's were the upandcomers of the late 80's. We had Roseanne, Christina Applegate, Candace Cameron, Jasmine Guy, and Will Smith.

The early 90's were an interesting time. You could wear anything you wanted to anywhere. There were people wearing shirts from 1985 in 1990. Everyone seemed more focused on the news than on fashion. Man, I miss the early 90's.
Old 05-06-2013, 11:05 AM
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The late 80's and early 90's were all about Gitano. Gitano clothing strings those two periods together. If you were to look at the show Yo Yogi!, you would notice that Huckleberry Hound is wearing a Gitano sweater. You can almost think of Yo Yogi! like That Late 80's Early 90's Show if you do not judge it by first glance. Those were the times when everybody wore Gitano. This lasted until mid '93.
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