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Old 02-04-2013, 11:34 AM
 
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1992 felt like the new 1989. In '89, we saw more mid-90's shows and gadgets released. 1989 was still a part of the late 80's (1987-1989). 1990-1992 was an era to itself. Children watched "Wake, Rattle and Roll" (with the Johnny 5 look alike), "Video Power" (which put more emphasis on the video game boom),"The Disney Afternoon" after-school block (with cartoons similar to Ducktales), "Mr. Belvedere" reruns, and "The Fresh Prince of Bel Air". The 1980's were nothing more than the late 1970's becoming the early 1990's. So, if you were to look at the late 80's first, then the early 1990's (1990-1992) were SUPER LATE 80's. The early 1990's did not have the 80's excess in it from late '90 to November of 1992. 1989 seems more 80's because George Bush Sr. did not do anything to upset the public. People wore more black in 1989. There were more Goths in 1989 than in the early 1990's. I have heard people say that 1989 was the year Goth died. The very early 1990's were the Zubaz, Paula Abdul, Ninja turtles action figure, sequel heavy,late 60's/early 70's revival, "Full House" 80's. Everything born from 1987-1989 was reeeallly popular in the early 1990's.The early 1990's were not as chaotic as the 80's. They were far more progressive than the bland depressed Clinton 1990's. Unfortunately, the pop culture was more memorable than the era. People moved on from that period quickly due to the Recession. At the start of 1993, I remember people going on and on about the Clintons. That was a very 1990's event. 1992 was the last year to have the spirit of Bush 1 times. "Batman:The Animated Series" was a nice follow-up to the Tim Burton Batman period. Think of it like that. The overall Bush 1 era was darker than the Reagan 80's in some ways. You can look at most of the action flicks from those times to get that vibe. 1990-1991 were cheesier, in retrospect, than '89 or '92. 1990-1992 were very different from 1993-1999. Parents actually complained about rap music. They treated it as it were just a fad. Adults were more responsible for the actions of their children in the early 1990's. The Clinton 90's had an "anything goes" feel to them. The slang to the early 1990's was "lush, Audi 5000, Peace to the Middle East, Peace out, Going Postal, Mack-to eat, lame-o, bummer, no doy, bad-good, sweet, Totally cool, stupid, hype, deck-beat up, and rad". Those times were not that removed from the 1980's as the slang of the mid-1990's. The Clinton 90's had "da bomb, whatever, as if, buzz kill, no diggity, and all that and a bag of chips". The early 90's are not as appreciated as the Clinton times are. Because of the echo baby boom in te early 90's, there are more children who remember 1993-1999. To remember the very early 1990's, you had to be born before 1987. The 1980's were the last full decade we were in the 20th Century. 1990-1992 were very 20th century with the tacky fashions (think Cross Colours), political events, and lack of awareness. 1993 starts off the 21st Century, in my opinion, with the World Trade Center. 1993 did not feel much like 1990-1992 at all. Most of the shows of the early 90's (like Parker Lewis) were getting low ratings in '93. The stuff that stayed around in the mid '90s were better from '90-'92. Blossom looked much older, the Bayside crowd and West Beverly "teens" graduated, and Aunt Viv somehow changed. 1992 also had "Degrassi: School's Out" and "Degrassi Talks" in it. 1993 did not have much from the mid-80's in it. Most people, like myself, were collecting trinkets from the 80's and early 90's in the actual 90's. Believe it or not, people were stating on Usenet that they missed Marky Mark in 1999. The actual 1990's were edgier. Certain types went for the Clinton 1990's culture. Those people made fun of the 80's and early 1990's around 1995. The real 1990's tried to be more like the 70's until it looked really ridiculous. The lack of electronic toys in early 1990's separate those times from 1993-'99. The mid-90's were not dancehall times like 1990-1992 was. The sound of New Jack Swing changed in early '93. Acid House stayed around in the 1990's. Much like the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, it was only good from '88 to '92. To answer your question, the early 1990's were a more modern form of the 1980's. They had everything from the 1980's to make them. They were not exactly the 1980's but they weren't the 90's yet. Only the best of mid-90s pop culture was born from '90 to '92. People had more respect for each other and the pop culture of the 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's, 70's, and early-mid 80's in the early 90's. Some of the older things that were still around from 60's-80's went downhill in late '92. There were still some excellent programs on the tube. The late 1980's were not old quite yet. Some things from the late 80's were old in late '90-'92. 1993-1999 went far overboard with grunge, all of those cartoons, and political correctness. The world has not changed much since those times. MTV did play some Pearl Jam in '92, but that might be because most Americans wanted to move forward. You still avoid them from 1991-1992. In 1994, Nirvana and Pearl Jam shirts were everywhere.

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Old 02-04-2013, 04:38 PM
 
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I would argue that popular culture and style hasn't changed much since 1992 or so. There have been micro-trends, but the culture has been very stable, bordering on indistinct. If you looked at almost any American photograph taken in the 20th Century, you could identify the decade is which is was taken, until you get up to 1992. Then things become much more of a wash.

If I had a theme party, everyone would know what to wear to represent the 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s. What would you wear to represent the 90s or 00s? If you watched a 70s sitcom during the 90s it would have seemed outrageously dated. Watching an episode of Seinfeld or Friends today? Not so much.
 
Old 02-04-2013, 04:52 PM
 
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1992 had acid wash jeans, Major Damage Jeans, Surfstyle, Cross Colours,Nike shell suits, extremely rolled up Bugle Boy jeans, Hypercolor, teal and purple everywhere. You could never get away with wearing that nowadays. There can't really be a theme party for the 1990's. The 1990's were the 20th Century becoming the 21st Century. 1990-1992 was extremely different from the rest of the 1990's. I lived 1990-1992 and partied hard! 1994 was when the more modern look started to come in. You can even look at photos from 1993. "Friends" also aired in 1994.
 
Old 02-04-2013, 05:16 PM
 
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The Real 1992:

Twins from the Eighties on Wtfeck Pictures
Yes, that is a Crystal Pepsi in that young lady's hand.

Browsing deviantART
This is exactly how everything looked in 1992!

1992 could be the most stereotyped year of all time. The fashions of 1990-1992 were a lot uglier than that of the 1980's. Some people really do not want to remember the tackiness, in terms of fashion, from those years.
 
Old 02-05-2013, 02:39 PM
 
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I would argue that popular culture and style hasn't changed much since 1992 or so. There have been micro-trends, but the culture has been very stable, bordering on indistinct. If you looked at almost any American photograph taken in the 20th Century, you could identify the decade is which is was taken, until you get up to 1992. Then things become much more of a wash.

If I had a theme party, everyone would know what to wear to represent the 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s. What would you wear to represent the 90s or 00s? If you watched a 70s sitcom during the 90s it would have seemed outrageously dated. Watching an episode of Seinfeld or Friends today? Not so much.
So people in 2013 still look like this, huh?



I do sort of half agree in the sense that people still love the 90s and don't consider it old or dated, but I think it's more because the 90s wasn't nearly as outrageous as the 70s and 80s. And certain 90s attitudes and fads have persisted into the present, such as neoliberalism/globalization and sagging your pants. But then again the materialism of the 80s is still with us, and the legacy of the 60s is still fresh in many ways. There are still hippies and Beatles fans.

But I think even 1999 has a pretty different vibe from today, you'd kind of have to be blind or not paying attention to notice. I was watching Analyze This the other day and it looked like it could have been from the 80s. Tons of people with thick rimmed glasses, kids wearing really colorful clothes, nobody texting on their phones.

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Old 02-05-2013, 02:48 PM
 
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If I had a theme party, everyone would know what to wear to represent the 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s. What would you wear to represent the 90s or 00s? If you watched a 70s sitcom during the 90s it would have seemed outrageously dated. Watching an episode of Seinfeld or Friends today? Not so much.
To be fair, Seinfeld and Friends have a timelessness to them that's made them perennially popular. Not to mention 1) they were very groundbreaking for their time 2) Seinfeld especially does seem quite dated even if it's still funny.

There are plenty of 90s shows that are extremely dated. Baywatch, Family Matters, Full House, and Saved By The Bell had the majority of their runs in the 90s even if they started in the late 80s.

The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, Step By Step, Clarissa Explains It All, the original Beverly Hills 90210, and Wings spend their entire runs in the 90s and are very dateable to that era. I don't think they could even be mistaken for early 2000s shows let alone 2010s shows.
 
Old 02-05-2013, 03:50 PM
 
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I would argue that popular culture and style hasn't changed much since 1992 or so. There have been micro-trends, but the culture has been very stable, bordering on indistinct. If you looked at almost any American photograph taken in the 20th Century, you could identify the decade is which is was taken, until you get up to 1992. Then things become much more of a wash.

If I had a theme party, everyone would know what to wear to represent the 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s. What would you wear to represent the 90s or 00s? If you watched a 70s sitcom during the 90s it would have seemed outrageously dated. Watching an episode of Seinfeld or Friends today? Not so much.
I disagree.

The nineties was skateboards, hacky-sack, the golden age of Video Games, good cartoons, the revolution of adult cartoon shows, etc. The nineties had a very distinct look and feel and sound compared especially to our current decade.

The twenty-tens have been, texting, glued to phones, netspeak lol ikr idk, a wasteland of first person shooters, the dominant age of the online and PC game, and let's face it, the internet has had complete control of culture since the early two thousands.

Another difference; the nineties were very affluent times for many Americans. The two thousands on have been full of recession, poverty and financial crisis on a global scale. This has shown itself in people's attitudes.

There is plenty more than I have mentioned. My point is the nineties has not had this long a reach.
 
Old 02-05-2013, 06:34 PM
 
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So people in 2013 still look like this, huh?
My point is that fashion, style and popular culture has become a lot subtler. It doesn’t go off on trends and tangents like it used to. You could walk down the street in any of those outfits and not call undue attention to yourself or appear as if you were wearing a costume. Same thing with the haircuts.

If that photo were taken today, the men might have a little stubble and glasses. But the silhouette would be similar.
 
Old 02-05-2013, 09:20 PM
 
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The cheesiness of the early 1990's died in 1993. I don't like the mid-90s at all. They were the core 90's. Everything was dull from 1993 until around '96/'97. Around February of '93, people began going to the Salvation Army more and more. That was one event that killed off the early 1990's for good. Second, more guys were trying to shape their hair like Michael Jordan. That killed off the hi-top fade. I do not remember anyone wearing a side ponytail or rat-tail in 1993.

Junior High school Guys were the cockiest in the "Vanilla Ice Age". They chased after High School girls in 1991. They wanted the Irocs (the car), the Z. Cavaricci clothes (an '89-'93 thing), the gold chains, and the babes (Paula Abdul was hot back then). A lot of people mistake 1991 for 1988. When they hear of Nirvana, they instantly paint a false image of the early 1990's. They confuse 1992 with 1994 all of the time. The mid-90's really gave "the 1990's" a bad look. Once Kurt Cobain died, you could not go anywhere without seeing Nirvana stuff. In late '91, someone may have heard Nevermind, but they never figured a look went with that movement.

The early 1990's(1990-1992) were totally different from the rest of the 90's. We did not know what the 1990's were in those years. People clung to the styles born in the late 1980's. Females wore bolo ties with neon green shirts in 1990. Two-tone clothing defined the Bush Sr. era. If you were to look at how Seinfeld is dressed in 1989 pilot, that gave away the look of mid '89 to '92. In the summer of 1989, something happened. People began dressing differently all of the sudden. The two-tone clothing screams "The Arsenio Hall Show", Bobby Brown, the Chess King store in the mall, those mutant turtles, and the Exxon Valadez event. There was a lot of hope in those times. The Wall fell, then Mandela was freed. Plus, the war many compared to Nam was over in just a few weeks. Also, the election of 1992 appears to be the last time any election was ever exciting. There was something for everyone from 1989-1992. Times have not been the same since. The culture of 1989-1992 really came together. It is so easy to nail the "tribal print, Spike Lee, Doogie Howser MD, Teen Talk Barbie" period. You could still watch reruns of core 80's shows (Mr. Belvedere and Rainbow Brite) in 1991. I really miss those timez (people used to end words with z to make them look cooler). The ALF episodes from late '89 early 1990 really reveals the fashion of the Bush Sr. days. Instead of Madonnabes, we had Debbie Gibson (circa 1989) look alikes in the spring of '90. There was more "electric youth" in those days then they could ever be nowadays.

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Old 02-05-2013, 09:30 PM
 
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Another difference; the nineties were very affluent times for many Americans. The two thousands on have been full of recession, poverty and financial crisis on a global scale. This has shown itself in people's attitudes.
No, the 2000's have expanded this affluence but it is mostly illusory as people didn't really as much on credit cards for frivolous stuff as they did starting say past 2001.. Most are just or much more materialistic & shallow than in the 1990s.
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