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Old 02-10-2013, 03:03 PM
 
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As opposed to Romney whose tax plan was everyone gets a 20% tax cut, the deficit gets paid off, and everyone gets a free pony. We're going to do this with eliminating tax loopholes. Which tax loopholes you say? You'll have to elect me to find out, we can't divulge that information right now.

The Scientologist, oops I mean Mormon (sorry hard to tell the two apart), intergalactic space opera polytheist who believes that Mormons in the afterlife can reach the highest level where they become Gods with their own planets to rule over (such as the make believe planet Kolob), where they have spirit children who go on to have their own planets to rule over as Gods with millions of their own subjects. Doesn't exactly jive with those 50s Christian beliefs.

The guy who changed political beliefs more than he changed his magic underwear, who went from a pretty liberal Massachusetts Republican, to a right wing neocon in the primaries, then did an about face and went full moderate in the first presidential debate. Like Rich Sanitarium said "A moderate, a conservative, and a liberal walk into a bar. The bartender says 'Hello Mitt'".

The guy who considers 150 million Americans lazy bums.

Sure, the definition of insanity is not voting for that guy. You know, the definition of insanity is actually "The state of being seriously mentally ill; madness." It has nothing to do with not voting for the candidate you like and it has nothing to do with what that fake Albert Einstein quote says.

Horse hockey: It is a euphemism of Albert Einstein: The definition of insanity is "doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result".

FYI. let us know how you make out when you cannot get medical treatment or service, when you end up on Medicaid, and you pay $4,000 a month or more out of your pocket for EACH member of your family.

But the bozos will never realize what is happening to them. This is a topic for the 50's, remember. Nothing was perfect then, nothing is perfect now. But now is a helluva lot worse struggle than it was then ! At least our government officials were PATRIOTS and had that weird condition known as COMMON SENSE. And they didn't worship Allah, or want terrorists released from Guantonamo. d'oh
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Old 02-10-2013, 03:04 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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Default Was [sic] the 1950s as perfect as everyone says they were?

What a shame!. Please note the subject/title above. Most if not all of us who were alive then and lived through the decade while old enough to recall it were able and willing to reminisce about both the good things as well as the not so good.

Then enter the perpetual victims, the chronic naysayers, the totally partisan, the arguers, and, of course, the race elements from both sides, most all of whom weren't likely even twinkles in their parents eyes at the time and the thread goes downhill from there. How too bad and unnecessary.
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Old 02-10-2013, 03:10 PM
 
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What a shame!. Please note the subject/title above. Most if not all of us who were alive then and lived through the decade while old enough to recall it were able and willing to reminisce about both the good things as well as the not so good.

Then enter the perpetual victims, the chronic naysayers, the totally partisan, the arguers, and, of course, the race elements from both sides, most all of whom weren't likely even twinkles in their parents eyes at the time and the thread goes downhill from there. How too bad and unnecessary.

Amen. Huge rep for you on that fact.
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Old 02-10-2013, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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Interesting that there were no American presidents who came of age during the fifties. We went right from World War II generation (Kennedy-GHW Bush) to Boomers (Clinton-Obama). No president was born between 1924 and 1946. Talk about a silent generation.
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Old 02-10-2013, 04:07 PM
 
Location: west mich
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One measure that might be revealing is deaths from violent acts in schools. I could only find 10 deaths in the 1950s compared to 147 deaths in the first decade of the 2000s. Although adults committed some of these acts of violence, that fact only supports the proposition that we live in a very violent time now within our own borders.

Would you leave the doors to your home and vehicle unlocked today, as we did in the 1950s? Or, would you be concerned that "Johnny" down the street might burgle your property for weapons, cash, or drugs?
Seems to me these could be contributing factors:

** In 1950 - a more homogenous conservative, white-controlled society. Today - more diversity, instability, cultural and ideological infighting, cultural acceptance of self-indulgence as the American norm (very profitable btw).
** Population in 1950: 152 million. Today: 314 million. Gee, double!!
US Population by Year
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Old 02-10-2013, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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The guy who considers 150 million Americans lazy bums.
Romney didn't say that. He said he probably wouldn't get the votes from the 47% who are not paying income taxes.
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Old 02-10-2013, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Horse hockey: It is a euphemism of Albert Einstein: The definition of insanity is "doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result".
Wrong. It's another falsely-attributed quote, like countless others. Albert Einstein did not ever say that.

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Old 02-10-2013, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Romney didn't say that. He said he probably wouldn't get the votes from the 47% who are not paying income taxes.
That's not all he said.

"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it -- that that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what. ... These are people who pay no income tax. ... [M]y job is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."
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Old 02-10-2013, 04:38 PM
 
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Nope, people were looking forward to the future, thinking it would look like the Jetson by now, only to be disappointed that it didn't. They didn't realize how good they had it back then. They were very imaginative that they designed a rocket to go to moon in the 60's and working making the current period very futuristic. The technology progress has its limits, especially after the mid 60's when people started to get lazy and slow down. Therefore, the 50's seemed perfect compared to now. It also had its ups and down, too.
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Old 02-10-2013, 05:07 PM
 
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Seems to me these could be contributing factors:

** In 1950 - a more homogenous conservative, white-controlled society. Today - more diversity, instability, cultural and ideological infighting, cultural acceptance of self-indulgence as the American norm (very profitable btw).
** Population in 1950: 152 million. Today: 314 million. Gee, double!!
US Population by Year
We live in a violent society. The murder rate averaged 4.4 deaths per 100,000 in the 1950s, gradually increased to a high of 10.2 in 1980, and has steadily decreased to 4.7 in 2011, and is still trending lower. (Your population figures are inconsequential, as the rates are apples to apples and the LE ratio of officers per capita has shrunk or expanded over the years in response to crime rates.) The violent crime rate is also trending downward, to a point similar to the rates in the 1960s.

One thing that has changed dramatically is violence in schools. There are more instances of children killing children than in the fifties. Thus, I questioned the statement that "kids are less messed up now."

As for security measures in the 50s, on a personal note I was captain of the safety patrol, with a badge and white belt to prove it. No one started a fight or jaywalked on my watch, or they were issued a free pass to the principal's office. I don't think that type of "security" would be adequate today.
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