Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > History
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Closed Thread Start New Thread
 
Old 04-17-2013, 08:52 AM
 
8,367 posts, read 7,306,746 times
Reputation: 8639

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowball7 View Post
That's not true. Lincoln chose to wage war against the Confederacy, not visa versa.
Lincoln chose to preserve the Union.

Same thing as Andrew Jackson would have done, except that Jackson wouldn't have waited until Fort Sumpter was shelled.

 
Old 04-17-2013, 09:21 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
25,340 posts, read 16,989,062 times
Reputation: 36920
Quote:
Originally Posted by djmilf View Post
Lincoln chose to preserve the Union.

Same thing as Andrew Jackson would have done, except that Jackson wouldn't have waited until Fort Sumpter was shelled.
Yeah. That's pretty much how I would like to see The Presidency run. Jackson dealt with the nullification crisis. Jackson got the Force Bill passed, which gave The President power to use force in order to protect federal law. Most people believed he would show up and kick some ass if South Carolina did not get back in line and pay their taxes, so that was the end of that...........for a while. As we know South Carolina politics reared its head again..

Buchanan, although an interesting character, was no Jackson.

Force Bill in part:
Quote:
Section 5 deals with States, or portions within a state, who employ force, or any other unlawful means, to obstruct the execution of U.S. federal law, or interfere with the process of any Federal court. This section authorizes the President to use whatever force necessary to suppress such insurrections, "and to cause the said laws or process to be duly executed".
 
Old 04-17-2013, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Peterborough, England
472 posts, read 922,095 times
Reputation: 416
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowball7 View Post
That's not true. Lincoln chose to wage war against the Confederacy, not visa versa.
Only after the Confederacy had commenced waging it against the Union. Iirc, Ft Sumter never fired on Charleston.
 
Old 04-17-2013, 01:20 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
25,340 posts, read 16,989,062 times
Reputation: 36920
When you read the details of Ft Sumter, it appears that the first shot was actually fired on Buchanan's watch.
Buchanan tried to get supplies to Ft Sumter. He used an unarmed merchant vessel, and when the vessel approached Ft Sumter it was fired upon. That, to a lot of us, would have been the first shot of the war.

But it wasn't. The first shots came from the Confederacy as they bombarded Ft Sumter. The Union returned fire. When the shooting stopped, everyone was allowed to leave Ft Sumter. There were no casualties on either side, a fact that I find rather funny.

And as a modern Southerner, I find it funny that a Union cannon blew up during the surrender ceremonies, thus resulting in the first casualties of the new war.

Sometimes history is just plumb entertaining!
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Closed Thread


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > History

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top