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OK buster brown, do you think the first (presumably exploratory) voyage out included women?
One of the links I posted discusses a Hawaiian myth that one of the explorations that resulted in the discovery of the Hawaiian Islands was lead by a woman. So it's possible. We may never know for sure.
Trust me when they got there there were already people there
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U come run off or kill who ever is there and declare god has given me this land
OK buster brown, do you think the first (presumably exploratory) voyage out included women?
Well now, buddy boy...
The only one making any mention of women one way or the other is you. It's your issue. Why you decided to "interpret" that out of my post is all in your head.
A bunch of guys took a very long boat ride, found paradise, figured out how to go home and brought family with the second trip. There were no humans on Hawaii before the Polynesians got there. It was the same with Leif Erikson and the boys and Iceland but the Polynesians found a much more hospitable place.
Never underestimate the intelligence of former humans. The complexities of life were often much more profound then the ones for us ( MAC vs PC?, Condo vs Coop?, etc). UFOs and aliens should not be an excuse for knowledge we have lost. The skills to make concrete were known by ancient Egyptians and Romans, but lost till the late 1800's. We (semi)figured out how the Incas built their temples, but not how the masons of Tiahuanaco did their fantastic work.
The Polynesian voyages have to be looked at as gradual explorations. Valuable humans and materials on these valuable boats were only send out when there was some high certainty to hit good new lands. It was a combination of overpopulation, stress, politics, and smart calculations. The other options were culling population or conquering another island. Migrating birds, fish, weather, and wave patterns, astronomy and navigation technology, human management, food resources, agricultural planning was of the highest sophistication and not at its peak anymore when HAwaii was discovered by Capt Cook in the late 18th century. The trips to Tahiti had stopped by then and were only parts of their narrations.
One thing is for sure, these voyaging canoes were not suicide missions. Many returned unsuccessfully in finding land, but with knowledge gained of why not. And what to bring next to go further. Of course, a freak typhoon or similar hazards could spell disaster nevertheless.
Hawaii was a rather desolate place and void of most edible things as it was so far from any other landmass. The first and next waves of settlers had to bring a bunch of 'invasive' species to survive. They were the so called 'canoe plants', plus pigs, rats, dogs. A large flightless goose was killed off very quickly. Some native plants were cultivated. But the first years must have been very tough on the settlers. 'Aloha' was not just friendliness for the sake of it, but to counter a bit the many harsh conditions of social and environmental conditions.
We have to go back to the origins of man, while there was a branch that came from the simian world, there was another that evolved from life in the sea. The Polynesians were of this branch, and a few of them could still breath underwater as late as 1000 years ago. They swam to Hawaii, when their underwater city of Atlantis was destroyed by an earthquake. They had a wise leader, King Neptune, he led them across the ocean. The last of their kind made the final metamorphosis into human after their voyage to Hawaii. They had become land creatures and lost their ability to live in the aquatic world they had evolved from.
A bunch of guys took a very long boat ride, found paradise, figured out how to go home and brought family with the second trip. There were no humans on Hawaii before the Polynesians got there. It was the same with Leif Erikson and the boys and Iceland but the Polynesians found a much more hospitable place.
If it is true, it makes sense. I guess it has to be true because by process of elimination, there aren't too many other explanations.
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