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Old 08-02-2013, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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I love history but even more I love hearing of the scandals and what some of the rich or famous got up to years ago... here are a few..



Ted Kennedy.

In the Chappaquiddick incident on July 18, 1969, Mary Jo Kopechne, a female passenger of U.S. Senator Edward M. “Ted” Kennedy, was killed when he accidentally drove his car off a bridge and into a tidal channel on Chappaquiddick Island, Massachusetts. Kennedy swam free and left the scene, not reporting within nine hours, but Kopechne died in the vehicle. In the early hours of July 19, Kopechne’s body and the car were recovered. Kennedy pleaded guilty to a charge of leaving the scene of an accident after causing injury and received a two-month suspended jail sentence. The incident became a national scandal, and may have influenced Kennedy’s decision not to campaign for President of the United States in 1972 and 1976.

The Profumo Affair was a 1963 British political scandal named after John Profumo, Secretary of State for War. His affair with Christine Keeler, the reputed mistress of an alleged Soviet spy, followed by his lying in the House of Commons when he was questioned about it, forced the resignation of Profumo and damaged the reputation of Prime Minister Harold Macmillan’s government. Macmillan himself resigned a few months later because of ill health.
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Parts Unknown, Northern California
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What did Ted Kennedy say when Mary Jo told him that she thought she might be pregnant with his child?

"We'll cross that bridge when we come to it."
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Old 08-02-2013, 03:30 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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I love history but even more I love hearing of the scandals and what some of the rich or famous got up to years ago... here are a few..



Ted Kennedy.

In the Chappaquiddick incident on July 18, 1969, Mary Jo Kopechne, a female passenger of U.S. Senator Edward M. “Ted” Kennedy, was killed when he accidentally drove his car off a bridge and into a tidal channel on Chappaquiddick Island, Massachusetts. Kennedy swam free and left the scene, not reporting within nine hours, but Kopechne died in the vehicle. In the early hours of July 19, Kopechne’s body and the car were recovered. Kennedy pleaded guilty to a charge of leaving the scene of an accident after causing injury and received a two-month suspended jail sentence. The incident became a national scandal, and may have influenced Kennedy’s decision not to campaign for President of the United States in 1972 and 1976......................
My favorite part:
Kopechne told no one that she was leaving with Kennedy, and left her purse and hotel key at the party.
See, the story Ted told was that he was taking her back to the hotel. "No reason for the Chauffeur to bother, I can do it"

And there is this:
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John Farrar, the rescue diver who examined the Chappaquiddick accident scene, was convinced that Mary Jo Kopechne had not only survived the crash, but had also lived for some time by breathing a pocket of trapped air. Farrar did not believe that she had drowned, but instead had died by asphyxiation as the oxygen in the air she was breathing was used up and replaced with carbon dioxide. “She was alive, easily an hour, maybe two,” he said.
That means Mary Jo Kopechne may have lived an hour after Kennedy, Gargan and Markham left the scene
Streaming Oldies - Listen On Demand - MARY JO KOPECHNE - 39 YEARS LATER
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Old 08-02-2013, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Iowa
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I liked that Ted joke Grandstander, lol.

Sure was a lot of inconsistencies in Ted's story, the timeline of events, his later actions and reactions, reminds me a bit of Nixon with Watergate, with how much trouble you can get into trying to cover it up. In a way, one might say both these men lost the presidency because of scandal and cover up.

The deputy sheriff saw Ted's car making that "accidental turn" over an hour after Ted claimed the accident happened. Later Ted goes back to his hotel room, cleans up and gets a little sleep, is seen the next morning at breakfast talking to other guests, with rather normal demeanor, until his buddies show up sopping wet, grab Ted and take him into another room for 3 minutes, then they fly out of the hotel in near panic, leaves his breakfast guests without saying a word, and hits the road.

The accident did not support the theory that Mary Jo was sitting in the passenger seat either, the car impacted the water on the passenger side, smashed in that whole side of the car, and windows, yet Mary Jo did not have damage to her body that would be consistent with that type of injury that would occur. For some strange reason, at first the Kopechne family was in favor of a full autopsy, then suddenly within a few days they were totally opposed to having a full autopsy done. Ted tried to get an NBC reporter taken off the story and fired for her questioning and pressing him for details. He puts pressure on officials involved with investigation to do the least they could do. Ted hides out for days at his house at Martha's Vineyard without making any public statements or answering any questions. His TV speeches never cleared anything up, it's all still a bit of a mystery to what really happened.

He might not have even been driving the car, but sent Mary Jo off with his car drunk, because the deputy sheriff spotted them and was snooping around, and spoiled their privacy. Leaving the scene of an accident is a lesser charge than negligent manslaughter, as they were seen leaving the party together and he would be blamed. So when he finds out hours later she wrecked the car, he makes up all that BS about multiple attempts at saving her life, and about being the driver. He's gonna get blamed and ridiculed anyways, why not polish it up some with a heroic rescue story ? The timeline of events seems to suggest Ted was not in the know about what was going on, for quite a while after the accident.

Everyone knows about Watergate, biggest presidential scandal ever, what about Credit Mobilier, Teapot Dome, X Y Z affair, Monica Lewinsky, Iran Contra, Popes that sell salvation, female pope's posing as men, naughty kings and queens, must be some good ones to dredge up here.
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Old 08-02-2013, 10:40 PM
 
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We are familiar with the word "shoddy" meaning inferior, second rate, poorly made. The word did not exist before the American Civil War and we owe its entry into our vocabulary to the incompetent and corrupt Simon Cameron, President Lincoln's first Secretary of War.

Cameron's conception of his job was to reward all of his political cronies and supporters by giving them the contracts for supplying the Union army. The contracts specified that uniforms and blankets were to be made from wool. Shady manufacturers concocted a new fabric made from wool and wool by products, clippings and recycled shreds. It was made into a single fabric, called shoddy, by treating it with a chemical which was supposed to glue it all together.

Cameron's war department bought thousands of uniforms, blankets and tents made from shoddy. These articles fell apart in the first rain to hit them, they literally came unglued.

Cameron also was responsible for the purchase, at criminally inflated prices, or tainted beef, old, worn out horses, leaky barrels and ancient wagons. Cameron was a powerful political figure and Lincoln had to ease him out rather than expose him as either incompetent, crooked, or both. He accomplished this by making Cameron US ambassador to Russia. The immense scale corruption was ended under the new War Secretary, the no nonsense Edwin Stanton.
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Old 08-03-2013, 07:44 AM
 
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I believe that there was a 'scandalous' affair between General William Howe the Commander In Chief of British Forces during the Revolutionary War and the young wife of one of his loyalist officers known as Elizabeth Loring. Some of my readings seem to indicate that he was a bit more concerned about pursuing Elizabeth than of capturing Washington when the opportunity presented itself .

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