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To play the devil's advocate, nothing in the OP disproves any conspiracy theories, other than those theories which state that LHO had nothing to do with the assassination. LHO could have been seen as the perfect tool, based upon his history, mental state, and place of employment. There may have been backup in place to insure the success of the plan.
I'm not following this at all.
First, LHO wasn't a perfect tool for anything. He was a loose cannon, who months before had tried to murder General Edwin Walker with the same rifle that he shot JFK with. Who, in their right mind, would hire such a man to do anything? His background portrays longstanding dislike for his country and for figures of authority. He was mentally unstable and unable to hold a job down. What exactly was LHO getting in return for trying to assassinate JFK? Where is the payment of dollars? Why wasn't Marina wealthy after what happened?
Second, did the timeline that I laid out for go right over your head? LHO gets a job in the school book depository three weeks before anyone would have known of the route the motorcade was taking, because it was planned three weeks after that date. Are you claiming "the conspirators" were just lucky? LHO just happened to be working a building where the motorcade would pass by and so they say "Hey Lee, want to shoot the President?". All these events would have had to take place--at the most--within two weeks from November 8 (when the route was planned) to November 22nd when JFK was shot. Why did neither Marina Oswald or any of the family friends shed any light for the Warren Commission on this alleged conspiracy? LHO must have had some dealings with them while he was living with Marina, right? If there was a conspiracy, why didn't LHO talk about that while he was in custody of the Dallas police before he was shot? Why did Jack Ruby go to his death bed stating that he acted alone when he made the decision to shoot LHO?
Third, there never has been any real evidence there was a second gunman. The idea that someone was shooting at the motorcade from the Grassy Knoll is hogwash. They would have been right in plain sight and there would have been multiple witnesses to identify that person.
The final point, I'd make is that there is a history of presidential assassinations in this country. With the exception of the Lincoln Assassination, none of the others involved conspiracies. Leon Czogoloz murdered President McKinley because, as an anarchist, he saw McKinley as a capitalist tool. Charles Guiteau was a mentally ill, disappointed over not being appointed to public office, who shot and ultimately killed President Garfield. The pattern is that mentally unstable people see the President as a target. He is a "the reason" that they aren't doing better in life and they want to punish or eliminate him. IMO, the JFK assassination was the same sort of thing.
I've often quoted from the WCR, but the errors and omissions are the reasons that so many Americans disagree with its conclusions. From an article by Michael T. Griffith, linked below:
The House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) reinvestigated the Kennedy shooting from 1977-1979. One of the select committee's conclusions was that the Warren Commission failed to adequately investigate the possibility of conspiracy. Said the committee, The Warren Commission failed to investigate adequately the possibility of a conspiracy to assassinate the President. This deficiency was attributable in part to the failure of the commission to receive all the relevant information that was in the possession of other agencies and departments of the Government. (HSCA Report, p. 256)
When (and if) the CIA releases the last 1171 documents in 2017, as required by the JFK Act, the public may finally have enough information to eliminate many, if not most, of the doubts that exist today.
You quote Michael T. Griffith? The conspiracy advocate? Look at his resume and you will see certificates of this and that, a batchelor's degree, and some other stuff.
The Warren Commission was satisfied there was no other person involved. Looking at the members of the Warren Commission I find a wealth of investigative and judicial experience.
A. First, LHO wasn't a perfect tool for anything. He was a loose cannon, who months before had tried to murder General Edwin Walker with the same rifle that he shot JFK with. Who, in their right mind, would hire such a man to do anything? His background portrays longstanding dislike for his country and for figures of authority. He was mentally unstable and unable to hold a job down. What exactly was LHO getting in return for trying to assassinate JFK? Where is the payment of dollars? Why wasn't Marina wealthy after what happened?
B. Second, did the timeline that I laid out for go right over your head? LHO gets a job in the school book depository three weeks before anyone would have known of the route the motorcade was taking, because it was planned three weeks after that date. Are you claiming "the conspirators" were just lucky? LHO just happened to be working a building where the motorcade would pass by and so they say "Hey Lee, want to shoot the President?". All these events would have had to take place--at the most--within two weeks from November 8 (when the route was planned) to November 22nd when JFK was shot. Why did neither Marina Oswald or any of the family friends shed any light for the Warren Commission on this alleged conspiracy? LHO must have had some dealings with them while he was living with Marina, right? If there was a conspiracy, why didn't LHO talk about that while he was in custody of the Dallas police before he was shot? Why did Jack Ruby go to his death bed stating that he acted alone when he made the decision to shoot LHO?
C. Third, there never has been any real evidence there was a second gunman. The idea that someone was shooting at the motorcade from the Grassy Knoll is hogwash. They would have been right in plain sight and there would have been multiple witnesses to identify that person.
First of all, in many threads I have already stated that LHO could have just been lucky to strike his target that day, although the fourth shot has yet to fully explained. But, in continuing with my role as devil's advocate, I'll respond to your questions.
A. Everything about LHO cries that he was an extreme narcissist. In his attempt to enter Cuba through Mexico, he tried to establish that he was an anti-communist through his association with JURE and other anti-Castro groups. In his mind he was the controlling figure but, in reality, he was being used by other groups like the FBI and CIA ( confirmed by testimony to the HSCA.) Yes, he was a tool.
LHO admired JFK, until the emabargo and failed Bay of Pigs Operation. Then JFK became his focus, as LHO felt that Cuba was not being treated fairly. As a Marxist he would be aiding another Marxist - Castro - by eliminating JFK. Marina would not benefit at all, inasmuch as narcissists have no empathy for others. At the time of the attempt on Gen. Walker, he was perfectly content to leave Marina with one month's rent paid and one paycheck from work, knowing that he would be incarcerated if caught.
B. The timeline is of no consequence. It was a happy coincidence for LHO that the motorcade passed by his building, but he would have travelled anywhere to assassinate JFK. Did he not go to Gen. Walker's home? Marina was kept in the dark about most of his activities, which were always conducted away from the home. What is so unbelievable about a criminal lying or covering up his actions? As for Jack Ruby, he may indeed have acted alone, and not been part of a cover-up, as he only had a very distant connection to anti-Castro groups.
C. There were many witnesses that saw a figure by the grassy knoll, and others that smelled smoke from gunfire. One witness (one of many whose testimony was not included in the WCR) was on the overpass when he was ordered to leave by an individual who flashed Secret Service ID, yet the SS said that they did not have anyone stationed there. Who was the mystery man?
The persona of LHO as an unintelligent, mentally unstable, Communist sympathizer who can't hold a job is an alias, contrary to the actual reality of the man.
He was taught--and learned it very well--the Russian language so he was not stupid, mentally unstable? probably made to look that way, Communist? he wasn't, it was a cover. He was sent to the USSR and then brought back again--and got back quickly with no questions asked. Suspicious in those days that he could get right back into the USA and no one followed him around, questioning him.
Unable to hold a job? Made out to look that way but many reliable sources think he was working for the CIA as a low level agent. He held that job until he was murdered.
Where is the payment of dollars? Why wasn't Marina wealthy after what happened?
They (CIA?) must have promised him something big but maybe they never even intended to give it to him. They just used him, he was nothing to them. Why would they pay Marina?
LHO gets a job in the school book depository three weeks before anyone would have known of the route the motorcade was taking, because it was planned three weeks after that date.
That route could have been changed at any time no matter when it was originally planed or what the public was told. Researchers surmise that the CIA (who everybody trusted back in those day) was in on it, as well as the FBI (headed by J.Edgar Hoover who despised JFK intensely), certain officials in Dallas were paid off -- any of all of them could have gotten the parade route changed at any time. Any of them, especially local officials in Dallas, could have had the motorcade slow down whenever they wanted to.
Any one of them could have gotten LHO a job in some place that would be suitable to take a shot at the President. It's not coincidence, it was all about who you knew.
Someone made shots from that window but LHO was found a few minutes later on the first or second floor, not out of breath and when they tested him there were no signs of him having fired a gun. (I'm no expert on this but something about testing his cheek.)
Why did neither Marina Oswald or any of the family friends shed any light for the Warren Commission on this alleged conspiracy?
I've always wondered. Threats maybe? The rest of the Kennedy family never talked either although they must have had their suspicions of what really happened. RFK thought it was an inside job and wanted an investigation. He was too much like his brother, pushing for what he wanted--and look what happened to him. It was no coincidence.
D. The final point, I'd make is that there is a history of presidential assassinations in this country. With the exception of the Lincoln Assassination, none of the others involved conspiracies. Leon Czogoloz murdered President McKinley because, as an anarchist, he saw McKinley as a capitalist tool. Charles Guiteau was a mentally ill, disappointed over not being appointed to public office, who shot and ultimately killed President Garfield. The pattern is that mentally unstable people see the President as a target. He is a "the reason" that they aren't doing better in life and they want to punish or eliminate him. IMO, the JFK assassination was the same sort of thing.
D. In a way, I think that LHO believed that he was acting alone, and perhaps there were others that decided to back him up and let him be the fall guy.
The Silvia Odio testimony was largely ignored by the WC, but the HSCA determined that it was "essentially credible." HSCA investigator Gaeton Fonzi said, "The Odio incident absolutely cries conspiracy." Odio, the daughter of a man imprisoned for trying to kill Castro, said that she was visited by three men, two Latinos and an Anglo, who were later identified as Angel Murgado, Carlos Bringuier, and Oswald. In a phone conversation she was told that the Anglo was an ex-Marine and an excellent shot, thought that JFK should be killed, and that he was "kind of nuts."
Murgado was working for RFK, keeping tabs on anti-Castro groups that might want revenge for JFK's part in the Bay of Pigs fiasco. RFK knew of LHO, and this is one of the reasons that many documents have not been declassified and released to the public. LHO thought the he was using the anti-Castro groups to bolster his qualifications to be admitted to Cuba, in that he told officials at the embassy in Mexico that he had infiltrated their organizations.
Even Vincent Bugliosi believes that Odio met with LHO. The fact that LHO didn't drive, and had to use the bus fit the WC timeline that LHO could not have visited Odio and travelled to the Mexican embassy but, in a memo, J. Edgar Hoover said that Oswald may have left for Mexico in a car.
Perhaps Bernardo De Torres, the third man at the Odio meeting, decided to use LHO as a patsy for his group's attack on JFK. Strangely, he was not interrogated about any of his activities leading up to the assassination by orders of the CIA.
We may learn more about the RFK/Murgado/Oswald connection and also exactly when LHO was an FBI and CIA informant in 2017. Until then, I am content to remain open to the idea that LHO may have actually shot the president, but may have not been the only shooter.
You quote Michael T. Griffith? The conspiracy advocate? Look at his resume and you will see certificates of this and that, a batchelor's degree, and some other stuff.
The Warren Commission was satisfied there was no other person involved. Looking at the members of the Warren Commission I find a wealth of investigative and judicial experience.
The WC failed on so many levels that the United States House Select Committee on Assassinations was formed to investigate the killing of JFK, and also that of Dr. King, because it was learned that the CIA had been involved in many assassination attempts. I know more than a few intelligent, respected public figures that have made mistakes, and I have no intention to disparage the reputations of the men whom you named.
PBS had a documentary this week regarding the assassination. With current technology and forensic
testing, the team of scientists, doctors & ballistic experts determined that the findings of the WC
were correct. The documentary presented information that was not previously available to the
public.
The truth about Lee Harvey Oswald can clearly be seen above, where he is standing in the doorway of the Texas School Book Depository during the assassination. Lee was watching the passing motorcade, and it proves that he could not have been up on the 6th floor firing at President Kennedy.
If Oswald acted alone, how did the shot that blew off Kennedy's head manage to come from the right side when the first shot, the one that went through his throat and into the governor, manage to come from behind?
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