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I never implied blacks. It is usually white liberals who drive wedges into the populace to fan the imaginary flames. Racism exists on all levels but only the 19th century American variety is mentioned. How about the 21st century version?
You want treated fairly? You will soon have your wish and there ain't nothin' fair about it.
There is no one today that in real life terms have any connection to slavery. However, local and national politicians and some political parties and local and national preachers have discovered that they can gain attention and influence by teaching hate and by teaching slavery. This is actually very hurtful to our young people and serves no positive purpose. So this is not a haunting so much as a modern day smear and slander agenda.
We had 246 years of slavery, and we've had 148 years without it. The legalized second-class citizenship of African Americans persisted another 100 years after the end of slavery. The effects of disconnecting families from their ancestors, homeland, and language, denying education, property ownership, and a place in government, and institutionalized generational poverty will take much longer to go away, even if we are making a concerted effort to rid our country of them. Then there is racism, which is very real and present. It affects the daily decisions of many Americans.
Get off your soap box, my ancestors were slaves in Rome and my family displaced during Hitler's era in WW2, but I dont use those scenarios as a crutch for socioeconomic failure in 2013.
There is no one today that in real life terms have any connection to slavery. However, local and national politicians and some political parties and local and national preachers have discovered that they can gain attention and influence by teaching hate and by teaching slavery. This is actually very hurtful to our young people and serves no positive purpose. So this is not a haunting so much as a modern day smear and slander agenda.
Sure there are.
Grandfather owns the former plantation land where some of my ancestors were born. Many of the older members of my family can recount memories of people (men and women) being lynched. My parents were not allowed to walk into the front door of businesses (in the South) but had to enter through stockroom doors to shop. One of the four little girls killed in the church bombing in Birmingham, AL was a distant cousin. This is not ancient history just because it is not a part of YOUR history.
Are my relatives supposed to not discuss their experiences with my generation (and younger) simply because it makes YOU uncomfortable to know that atrocities were committed for the sake of skin color? So, if I understand the reasoning of many in this thread, ALL of American history pre-1900 is irrelevant because no one is still alive who actually experienced those events, right? We should destroy Ellis Island and build condos, yes?
Really, so if I have 20 apples and 17 are red and 3 are green, raw numbers don't mean anything?
No they don't and your example isn't what we are discussing. My point goes a step further than simply stating total numbers. You say that there are 17 red apples and 3 green ones. I'm saying that both groups have 2 apples with worms. Both groups have the same number of worms, but 2 worms out of 3 apples is a whole lot different than 2 worms out of 17 apples. The ultimate goal should be getting rid of the worms, not simply counting them. That being the case, it is necessary to investigate why the green apples are more predisposed to worms.
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In reality, Asians simply have more intact families, due to their more intact homogeneous cultures.
Also, Asians don't have higher IQ's, but they most certainly do show more willingness to study and understand math and science at greater rates than other populations. Much of this is due to their culture, which rewards and encourages those who place a heavy emphasis on learning and developing in technical areas.
America however is mostly superficial. It rewards ignorance, greed and violence, therefore its overall populations are mostly ignorant, greedy and violent.
The research into IQ doesn't back you up (Race and intelligence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia). It's worth pointing out that raw IQ isn't everything. The historical Asian value for homogeneity has resulted in excellence with rote learning and skills at the detriment (compared to the West) of creativity and entrepreneurship. I think it works out better for the world in the long run because Westerners are better at some things, whereas Asians have competitive advantages in other areas.
Grandfather owns the former plantation land where some of my ancestors were born. Many of the older members of my family can recount memories of people (men and women) being lynched. My parents were not allowed to walk into the front door of businesses (in the South) but had to enter through stockroom doors to shop. One of the four little girls killed in the church bombing in Birmingham, AL was a distant cousin. This is not ancient history just because it is not a part of YOUR history.
^ But using this as an EXCUSE for failure in a world where this does not exist anymore is an easy copout for someone who does not want to compete in a capitalist country where there are more than enough "affirmitive action" opportunities.
We had 246 years of slavery, and we've had 148 years without it. The legalized second-class citizenship of African Americans persisted another 100 years after the end of slavery. The effects of disconnecting families from their ancestors, homeland, and language, denying education, property ownership, and a place in government, and institutionalized generational poverty will take much longer to go away, even if we are making a concerted effort to rid our country of them. Then there is racism, which is very real and present. It affects the daily decisions of many Americans.
You're making excuses. Other demographics flee communistic/third world countries. They also leave their families and cultures behind, to come to the United States and they assimilate just fine.
^ But using this as an EXCUSE for failure in a world where this does not exist anymore is an easy copout for someone who does not want to compete in a capitalist country where there are more than enough "affirmitive action" opportunities.
Who said anything about "failure"? Why are YOU automatically equating knowledge of one's history to an "excuse for failure", "not wanting to compete" or "affirmative action"?
Until YOU acknowledge your own racial biases, you will NEVER, EVER get it.
Hitler wiped out 1/3 of the Jewish population, yet they flourish socioeconomically. Their valuables were confiscated, families destroyed, and culture obliterated; however, they own most of the wealth.
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