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Old 01-11-2014, 05:38 AM
 
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Funnily the most decorated regiment in the US Army was composed by Nisei (or Nippo-Americans), the 442nd.
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Old 01-11-2014, 06:16 AM
 
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I don't agree. I see what you're getting at, but I just don't think that's true. We didn't do that to German-Americans or German immigrants for that matter. Why not? I know that we officially entered the war because of Pearl Harbor, but Germany was still an ally of Japan and they were even closer across the ocean than Japan and Germany just like Japan, was pretty aggressive at sea. What was done to Japanese-Americans was no different than what Hitler did to Jews, except that we can brag that we didn't "kill" them.
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Old 01-11-2014, 08:32 AM
 
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I don't agree. I see what you're getting at, but I just don't think that's true. We didn't do that to German-Americans or German immigrants for that matter. Why not? I know that we officially entered the war because of Pearl Harbor, but Germany was still an ally of Japan and they were even closer across the ocean than Japan and Germany just like Japan, was pretty aggressive at sea. What was done to Japanese-Americans was no different than what Hitler did to Jews, except that we can brag that we didn't "kill" them.
Yes, it was different. We fed them decently. We gave them accommodations equal to what our own soldiers were getting. We didn't torture them. I'm sure people died in captivity, but I suspect the death rate was pretty low. Finally, we released those who wanted to be released before the war ended.

It was wrong. It was an example of what happens when racism and intolerance is mixed with fear and hysteria. It doesn't compare with what the Nazis did to the Jews. Racial prejudice exists in all countries. A desire to commit Genocide does not.
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Old 01-11-2014, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Yes, it was different. We fed them decently. We gave them accommodations equal to what our own soldiers were getting. We didn't torture them. I'm sure people died in captivity, but I suspect the death rate was pretty low. Finally, we released those who wanted to be released before the war ended.

It was wrong. It was an example of what happens when racism and intolerance is mixed with fear and hysteria. It doesn't compare with what the Nazis did to the Jews. Racial prejudice exists in all countries. A desire to commit Genocide does not.

I agree with the bolded,

The Nazi's were not at all concerned with the lives of those they interned. Bergen-Belsen alone killed something like 50,000 prisoners through starvation, disease and neglect.

The principle difference between the Nisei and NAZI camps is that the Nisei were intended to live and be released after the war - therefor there were schools, clinics, etc. Japanese-American men could serve in our military or work on local farms, while women could join the USO, give blood or work in on-site industry - earning money to buy items at the camp stores. There were weddings, births, baseball games and reasonably guaranteed survival. And, of course, at the end of the war, they were set free.

The NAZI concentration camps, on the other hand, utterly disregarded any human rights or dignity, and certainly as Lord Baal has pointed out, after the Wansee conference it was a matter of the planned extermination of Jews, Gypsies, Slavs and other undesirables.

Japanese internment camps are a shameful part of American history. But it's not in the same league as the holocaust.
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Old 01-11-2014, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Funnily the most decorated regiment in the US Army was composed by Nisei (or Nippo-Americans), the 442nd.
That is right.


THE MOST DECORATED UNIT OF US ARMY WWII 442 REGIMENT JAPANESE - YouTube
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Old 01-11-2014, 11:13 AM
 
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I am mixed Asian myself. I have always been asked "Where are you coming from? You are a very exotic looking beauty. Are you Asian? You look mostly Asian, but not quite, what are you?"

I am Japanese/German/Irish/Hawaiian. I am pretty sure that if I look full German or Irish. NOBODY would ask me "What are you?" or "Where are you coming from?"

A little off topic, I know.

I just cannot imagine the horror and anger those Japanese-Americans must have felt during world war II. Imagine you were living in a country where you call home, all of sudden, you were forced to sell your business, your land, and all your family members were put in a "camp". You were not trusted, respected simply because of your heritage.

I never want to experience something like that. I hope NOBODY ever experiences something like that. This is why history is important. We learn from it and we move on.

p.s. According to this internet article

"During the entire war only ten people were convicted of spying for Japan and these were all Caucasian."

World War Two - Japanese internment camps in the US

Pretty interesting, isn't it?
No, it isn't interesting to me because I think if the Japanese exclusively used ethnic Japanese spies they would have to have the stupidest intelligence agencies in the world since there were very few Japanese-Americans who could actually get access to crucial information and because Japanese American spies would be easy to catch due to race.
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Old 01-11-2014, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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No, it isn't interesting to me because I think if the Japanese exclusively used ethnic Japanese spies they would have to have the stupidest intelligence agencies in the world since there were very few Japanese-Americans who could actually get access to crucial information and because Japanese American spies would be easy to catch due to race.
Your post proves once again that internment camp was not justified.
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Old 01-11-2014, 11:39 AM
 
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Yes, it was different. We fed them decently. We gave them accommodations equal to what our own soldiers were getting. We didn't torture them. I'm sure people died in captivity, but I suspect the death rate was pretty low. Finally, we released those who wanted to be released before the war ended.

It was wrong. It was an example of what happens when racism and intolerance is mixed with fear and hysteria. It doesn't compare with what the Nazis did to the Jews. Racial prejudice exists in all countries. A desire to commit Genocide does not.
Exactly, CAPTIVITY; it was not different.
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Old 01-11-2014, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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If you think about it the internment of Japanese Americans or a persons of Japanese ancestry was not as bad as people thought

because the times were a lot different back then , internment was also for their own personal safety, I believe mobs of angry Americans would of burned their houses down and assaulted many innocent people if they were not interned in the camps

this was back when they were still lynching blacks in the south, the racism and mentality of the times is not like today, not very PC back in 1940

so they were actually safer in the camps at that time in history

Today many people still think the same as back in 1940, Ive heard many discussions of what would you do if China went to war with the USA? and a lot of Americans said they would burn all the Chinese business's down and not trust any Chinese or Chinese American, sounds very similiar to how they thought of the Japanese during WWII

Have you read any books that assisted you in formulating this opinion? If so,can you post the title?
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Old 01-11-2014, 12:15 PM
 
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Exactly, CAPTIVITY; it was not different.
Really? German death camps no different than Japanese internment camps? Similar conditions, similar death rates? Below embarrassing
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