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Old 01-15-2014, 01:02 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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I'm currently reading Red Scare by Robert K. Murray, and I feel like there's grenades being thrown at me in every page. One of the scariest books I've ever read! The miscarriages in Justice back then, the utter denial of free speech, the unconscionable mass media, the hunting down of professors/teachers, even the corporate-kissing religious leaders. What an embarrassing, shameful chapter in our history!

I see now how easy it is to create mass hysteria in this country, and will it ever end!!!

Back then, there seemed to be a Bolshevik hiding everywhere, similar to the 2nd Red Scare. If you dared to strike back then, it was automatically assumed the union was full of Bolsheviks, radicals, influenced by Lenin/Trotsky.

Those pitiful U.S. Steel workers, working 7 days a week, 12 hours a day, and they were merely asking for a little more pay and one day off! Movement crushed!

Are these days over? The potential era of another super-patriot movement like this?
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Old 01-15-2014, 11:50 AM
 
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I'm currently reading Red Scare by Robert K. Murray, and I feel like there's grenades being thrown at me in every page. One of the scariest books I've ever read! The miscarriages in Justice back then, the utter denial of free speech, the unconscionable mass media, the hunting down of professors/teachers, even the corporate-kissing religious leaders. What an embarrassing, shameful chapter in our history!

I see now how easy it is to create mass hysteria in this country, and will it ever end!!!

Back then, there seemed to be a Bolshevik hiding everywhere, similar to the 2nd Red Scare. If you dared to strike back then, it was automatically assumed the union was full of Bolsheviks, radicals, influenced by Lenin/Trotsky.

Those pitiful U.S. Steel workers, working 7 days a week, 12 hours a day, and they were merely asking for a little more pay and one day off! Movement crushed!

Are these days over? The potential era of another super-patriot movement like this?
We've seen those days come back in the 21st century since 9/11.
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Old 01-15-2014, 12:55 PM
 
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History does repeat itself.
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Old 01-15-2014, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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By holding the mass media more accountable, much of this could be avoided! Since when has a journalist ever gone to prison for falsifying information!
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Old 01-16-2014, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Folks saw Russia destroyed due to Bolshevik influence and other eastern european countries struggle with near civil war. Even Germany went though a phase of near insurrection in some cities.

People where alive who had experienced or heard their parents recount the U.S. Civil War. No one wanted that again. 1865-1919 Is only fiftyfour years.
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Old 01-16-2014, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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The entire anti-Communist movement in the 1950s and 1960s, especially McCarthyism in the early 1950s, was similar. It lacked the violence of the Red Scare, but a lot of people lost their careers and saw their lives ruined because they were accused of being Communists with little evidence except that maybe they had belonged to a communist front group back when they were college kids in the 1930s.
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Old 01-16-2014, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Question is: did this anti-communist mass hysteria occur in other countries, as well? Or was this something unique to the U.S.? We were the only ones that went overboard, while throwing our civil liberties out the window?

An historian once made an interesting comment: Americans are never happier than when they're on a witch-hunt!

And I associate our continual hysteria over released sex offenders from prison, the smoking hysteria and, even, MADD falls into that category, with our drunk driver witch-hunting.
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Old 01-16-2014, 08:23 PM
 
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Question is: did this anti-communist mass hysteria occur in other countries, as well? Or was this something unique to the U.S.? We were the only ones that went overboard, while throwing our civil liberties out the window?

An historian once made an interesting comment: Americans are never happier than when they're on a witch-hunt!

And I associate our continual hysteria over released sex offenders from prison, the smoking hysteria and, even, MADD falls into that category, with our drunk driver witch-hunting.
Canada also had a Red Scare.
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Old 01-16-2014, 08:28 PM
 
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I have a doctor whose parents came to US 25 years ago. She was born I China. her father a college professor was sent to a rural area of china to work in fields as a rice farmer. Waste of education because they feared the knowledge and ruled peasants easily thru food control. The maddening crowd is always dangerous when feed steady diet of propaganda of why they are at top.
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Old 01-17-2014, 01:30 AM
 
Location: Peterborough, England
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From what I've read, the US had been pretty hysterical ever since joining World War One in 1917. With the end of the war the mobsters who had previously gone after German-Americans and opponents of the Draft now had to find a new target. After the Red scare had run its course, a lot of them probably joined the Ku Klux Klan, which experienced a spectacular revival in the 1920s.

Could I recommend David M Kennedy Over Here - The First World War and American Society to anyone interested in this period?
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