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Old 04-16-2014, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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How did this thread go so far off-topic?

The OP was about a man responsible for slaughtering millions of Jews might have married a Jew.
The irony here is that the TITLE of the thread invites challenges from poster who think that was NOT the BIGGEST irony in History. Not limited to the example offered by the OP.

This is Godwin's Law in reverse: Any topic about Hitler will eventually digress off topic. Then Godwin's Law will reapply, and someone will scream Wait a minute, this is supposed to be about Hitler.
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Old 08-22-2014, 02:16 AM
 
Location: Peterborough, England
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Another candidate might be the Wars of the Roses.

These happened because Henry VI promoted a lot of unpopular favourites, made a hugely unpopular marriage which in turn led to the birth of a son whose legitimacy was questioned. He quarrelled with important barons, notably the powerful Earl of Warwick who played a crucial role in bringing him down, and he was involved in the death of his nearest adult male relative, Humphrey of Gloucester, which gave his cousin Richard of York a claim to the succession. This led to the destruction of his dynasty, after tens of thousands of lives had been lost in civil war..

Henry's downfall transferred the crown to Edward IV, who made an unpopular marriage which produced two sons whose legitimacy would later be questioned, promoted a bunch of his new Queen's relatives, who soon made themselves more unpopular that Henry's favourites had ever been, and quarrelled with important barons, notably including the Earl of Warwick. He was very much involved in the death of his nearest adult male relative, George of Clarence, which gave his younger brother Richard of Gloucester a claim to the succession This led to the fall of his dynasty.

Such was all that the massive loss of life had achieved.
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Old 09-21-2014, 01:39 PM
 
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The biggest irony in history is that Polish sovereignty was the reason England and France declared war on Nazi Germany in September 1939. By 1945, millions of innocent people had been killed, much of central Europe was in ruins, England was a bankrupt lap dog of a former colony, and Poland was under the control of the Soviet Union
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Old 09-22-2014, 03:26 PM
 
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A British documentary says that Hitler may have married a Jew!!!

Eva Braun was Jewish on her mother's side. I bet Herr Schicklgruber is turning over in whatever grave he's buried in. Read the article @ Hitler May Have Married a Jew - Documentary suggests Eva Braun has Jewish ancestry
Have not read all the responses but the "irony" wasn't that much of one at all.

Plenty of Nazi party members including high placed ones, members of the SS etc... all had Jewish wives and or mothers, grandmothers, etc.. which made these men technically Jewish. This was a well known secret and the men along with their wives and families were protected.

All over Europe and Britain there had long been intermarriage between Jews and Christians. Often and mainly for the same old good reason, money! A Jewish heiress or one with a large dowry could overcome many objections. Long as the children were baptized into a Christian faith that was enough for many, and also that the wife ceased practicing her religion at least in public.

Alfred de Rothschild had an illegitimate child with a great lady in English society. Their daughter Almina married George Herbert, 5th Earl of Carnarvon and became Lady Carnarvon, the 5th Countess of Carnarvon. Her fortune both personal and dowry (one of the most substantial in English history) saved Highclere Castle of recent Downton Abbey fame.
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Old 09-23-2014, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Parts Unknown, Northern California
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In their final months before the collapse, the Confederate government:
A) Approved a plan to permit slaves to become soldiers in the rebel army with freedom the reward for service.
B) Instructed their diplomats in England and France to indicate that a general manumission was planned for all slaves in the South.

The purpose of the attempt to form an independent Confederacy was to protect the institution of slavery, and now to protect that independent structure, they were willing to forfeit that which the structure was designed to perpetuate.

Ironic, but not all that uncommon in history. There should be a name for the phenomena where people arrive at the point where the tool becomes more important than the function for which the tool was designed. Labor unions are probably the most visible example.
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Old 09-23-2014, 12:25 PM
 
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Sorry, but I don't believe for one second either Hitler or Braum were Jewish. I am pretty sure Hitler would've checked, this is just an attempt to make him look worse than he is.
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Old 09-23-2014, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Sorry, but I don't believe for one second either Hitler or Braum were Jewish. I am pretty sure Hitler would've checked, this is just an attempt to make him look worse than he is.
Yes, because for someone on the fence, dating someone part-Jewish would have definitely been the tipping point against Hitler.
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Old 09-24-2014, 05:15 PM
 
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yes, because for someone on the fence, dating someone part-jewish would have definitely been the tipping point against hitler.

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Old 09-25-2014, 05:30 AM
 
Location: Peterborough, England
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In their final months before the collapse, the Confederate government:
A) Approved a plan to permit slaves to become soldiers in the rebel army with freedom the reward for service.
B) Instructed their diplomats in England and France to indicate that a general manumission was planned for all slaves in the South.

The purpose of the attempt to form an independent Confederacy was to protect the institution of slavery, and now to protect that independent structure, they were willing to forfeit that which the structure was designed to perpetuate.

Ironic, but not all that uncommon in history. There should be a name for the phenomena where people arrive at the point where the tool becomes more important than the function for which the tool was designed. Labor unions are probably the most visible example.

And Britain, after Saratoga, offered to give up its right to tax the colonies.
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Old 09-26-2014, 06:59 AM
 
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"Dewey defeats Truman" sign lol
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