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Old 06-08-2014, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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What is often unsaid in the coverage of D-Day and WW2 in general is who were those fighting the Germans? At the time the US population tracing back their lineage to Germany was huge, perhaps a majority. Italian-Americans were not far behind. In the entire Second World War I am not aware that even once people opposed fighting and bombing the countries they or their parents came from. I don't recall any national debate at the time. Fast forward to today where would be immigrants march in the streets waving the flag of the country they fled. Would the current generation Hispanics fight on the American side, kill Mexicans and fly bombing missions over Mexico if the need arises?
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Old 06-08-2014, 08:00 PM
 
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Bad analogy. In the case of Germany their own Anti-jewish laws and actions lost them good citizens. In the case of Italy not everyone liked Mussolini and no one much liked the Axis after they tried to conquer almost all of Europe.
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Old 06-09-2014, 03:31 AM
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During the civil war didn't Mexicans fight Mexicans and Indians fight Indians?
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Old 06-09-2014, 03:50 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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What is often unsaid in the coverage of D-Day and WW2 in general is who were those fighting the Germans? At the time the US population tracing back their lineage to Germany was huge, perhaps a majority. Italian-Americans were not far behind. In the entire Second World War I am not aware that even once people opposed fighting and bombing the countries they or their parents came from. I don't recall any national debate at the time. Fast forward to today where would be immigrants march in the streets waving the flag of the country they fled. Would the current generation Hispanics fight on the American side, kill Mexicans and fly bombing missions over Mexico if the need arises?
The bolded is the key. During WWII the need to release their ancestral homeland from a malevolent dictator likely helped motivate people of German, Italian and Japanese descent to join the armed forces. If a similar dictator arose in Mexico and threatened the well-being of people in the region, I don't doubt that Mexican-Americans would rally to the cause. But as of today, that need does not exist, so why would we expect Latinos to shell Mexico?
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Old 06-09-2014, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Central Nebraska
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Some would, some wouldn't. The Hispanic population in the United States of America is far from monolithic. To begin with, only about half of them are from Mexico, and while they may put on a united front on issues that affect them all they can be downright hostile to one another otherwise. Also, the ones that have made it here feel threatened by the newcomers who are messing things up and could wind up getting them all deported or at the very least profiled and harrassed by the Anglos--common citizens and store owners as well as the police. As the Japanese were bombing Peral Harbor a Japanese-American watching it was heard to say with genuine anger: "Those dirty Japs! Those dirty, stinking Japs!"
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Old 06-09-2014, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Bad analogy. In the case of Germany their own Anti-jewish laws and actions lost them good citizens. In the case of Italy not everyone liked Mussolini and no one much liked the Axis after they tried to conquer almost all of Europe.
Obviously it is a bad analogy because intentionally or not you are misrepresenting my question. I am saying Americans of German and Italian ancestry fought, bombed and killed Germans and Italians in the hundreds of thousands. So here it is again. Can you see circumstances where in a war with Mexico the current crop of Hispanics originally from Mexico join the US Air Force and bomb cities in Mexico, fight the Mexican army and make the cities that they or their parents came from look like this?

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Old 06-09-2014, 09:00 AM
 
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Can't you ask the same question about any immigrant group? You also cannot take Hitler and Nazis out the the equation. A more appropriate question would be something like, "if Mexico was taken over by Nazis and the Mexican government started executing citizens and establishing concentration camps, etc., etc., would current immigrants join the US military in order to defeat their home country in order to end atrocities and establish a democratic form of government?"

As written, your question is simply race baiting and trolling.
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Old 06-09-2014, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Parts Unknown, Northern California
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. Fast forward to today where would be immigrants march in the streets waving the flag of the country they fled. Would the current generation Hispanics fight on the American side, kill Mexicans and fly bombing missions over Mexico if the need arises?
I would imagine that it would come down to individual evaluations of the circumstances. In the American Civil War there were people such as General Thomas or original Commander in Chief Winfield Scott, who were Virginians by birth but opted to place their highest loyalties with their nation rather than their state. There was Robert E. Lee, who decided that even though he did not believe in the cause of secession, he could not bring himself to lead armies against his own relatives and neighbors.

The moral justification for the war would also be a factor. Why is the US invading Mexico? If it is a good cause...say that Mexico had fallen into bloody chaos and the intervention is to restore peace and order, then it would be less difficult for a Mexican American to support it. If it was some self serving cause backed by noble sounding rationalizations, then less so.
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Old 06-11-2014, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Cali
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Its tough to say. With all of this "ethnic identification" who knows?
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Old 06-12-2014, 09:18 AM
 
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In the entire Second World War I am not aware that even once people opposed fighting and bombing the countries they or their parents came from. I don't recall any national debate at the time.

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