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Old 04-09-2016, 06:10 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Any data and/or thoughts about this?
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Old 04-09-2016, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Aloverton
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I don't know if there is data, but the conventional understanding is "every last bolt and nut they could remove."
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Old 04-09-2016, 07:10 PM
 
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No data I can think of. I would think any of the major German Industrial corporations in the regions which were 'liberated' by the Soviets got most all of the equipment that wasn't purposely destroyed or sabotaged. The intellectual and technical capital would depend on whether the particular Germans companies already anticipated and had evacuated the area of intellectual capital. Or if targeted individuals remained behind or made deals with Soviets when captured to lessen war charges and save themselves by trading industrial tech and being set up in Soviet system.


Some research oriented authors like Joseph P. Farrell have written about the technical and intellectual capital based upon certain supposed high technology (The Bell) and how the Operation Paperclip equivalent intellectual capital made its way into Soviet hands via lower level means. He illustrates well the retention of old German Eastern European spy network of the Nazis by the USA CIA.
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Old 04-09-2016, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Was Midvalley Oregon; Now Eastside Seattle area
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Germany got new equipment in the Marshall Plan, didn't they?
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Old 04-09-2016, 09:03 PM
 
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Germany got new equipment in the Marshall Plan, didn't they?
That is one of the reasons for the West German economic miracle. Since so much was looted, the Germans had no choice but to invest in new technologies, equipment, and methods. The economic benefits were huge.
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Old 04-09-2016, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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Industrial prizes that fell into Soviet hands were the Carl Zeiss Optical works in Jena, The large IG Farben plants near Leipzig and Chemitz (Renamed Karl Marx Stad), and the Messerschmit and Junkers plants in Saxony. Other major industrial areas were the steel and coal mining area in Silesia (Breslau) and Shipbuilding in Stettin, Danzig and Rostock. Silesia, Pomerania and most of Prussia ended up in the reconstituted Poland as compensation for the 40% of Poland given to the USSR under the Molotov-von Ribbentrop Pact of 1939.


Companies like the Carl Zeiss Jena were mostly shells because most of the skilled opticians and glass workers had fled to the west. Where they formed a reconstituted Carl Zeiss Optiks in West Germany. The original Carl Zeiss rebuilt in East Germany and became one of the places the Soviets came to buy specialized optical systems, lasers and cameras for use by the Red Army, KGB and space program.


One of the interesting events after the 1989 reunification of the two Germanies and was the sorting out of DDR State Companies that had West German companies that had claims on the prewar assets of the DDR State firms (like Carl Zeiss Jena) . The Western Carl Zeiss Co. had no need to use the aging and technologically obsolete Jena factory and declined to take the factory over. The German Government and the Truehandenstalt the agency created to find new owners for East German enterprises, recapitalized the old Zeiss Jena Co as Jenoptik which is still in business today.


This was one of the few success stories for the end of the DDR saw roughly 40% of the industrial jobs in East Germany vanish as a result of Unification. Germany has spent over 2 trillion Euros bringing the infrastructure (schools, universities, utilities, telecommunications, rail and roads including new Autobahn routes) of the former DDR up to the level of West Germany.
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Old 04-11-2016, 11:11 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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I don't know if there is data, but the conventional understanding is "every last bolt and nut they could remove."
Agreed. There were protests at Potsdam about the looting, looting that extended to the Western sectors.
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Old 04-11-2016, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Get a look at BMW motorcycles vs Russian Ural motorcycles they seem oddly similar??.....As for intellectual looting???Research Operation Paperclip.............
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Old 04-11-2016, 11:39 AM
 
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...As for intellectual looting???Research Operation Paperclip...

Is it really looting if the "loot" is running to you as fast as it can?
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Old 04-11-2016, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Is it really looting if the "loot" is running to you as fast as it can?
good question probably depends what side you ended up on???
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