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Old 09-13-2016, 04:50 AM
 
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The original inhabitants?

The Tejanos, the native population, never left Texas. They are still there. They were not removed.

People crossing the border from Mexico are not the original inhabitants.


They are now since they are Mexicans, just as Algeria suffered from a savage irruption from people that French did not even know that existed.

Their land were stolen using many gimmicks, many were lynched.
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Old 09-13-2016, 04:56 AM
 
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You are missing the macro point...

1. Define "original inhabitants".

2. The land was not heavily populated.

3. Mexico lacked the power to enforce it's claims over the territory. Like it or not all land is "claimed" and the only thing that prevents someone else from "claiming" it is the power of the former claimant to resist.


1. Mexicans, call them Tejanos or whatever.
2. The land was not heavely populated, so what? Mexico had few inhabitants.
3. Texas was part of Mexico, as California.
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Old 09-13-2016, 05:06 AM
 
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Kingdom of Mexico 1886 - Charles III
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Old 09-13-2016, 05:08 AM
 
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Old 09-13-2016, 07:29 AM
 
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1. Mexicans, call them Tejanos or whatever.
2. The land was not heavely populated, so what? Mexico had few inhabitants.
3. Texas was part of Mexico, as California.

and before that Texas and California were part of Spain and before that it belong to the 70 Native Tribes that were fighting for control and the strongest tribes controlled most of the lands before the stronger and more advanced empire Spain took over....your point?


that's how the world works and how countries were formed.


Mexico had always a weak corrupt government and could NEVER managed those territories......get over it!
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Old 09-13-2016, 08:02 AM
 
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and before that Texas and California were part of Spain and before that it belong to the 70 Native Tribes that were fighting for control and the strongest tribes controlled most of the lands before the stronger and more advanced empire Spain took over....your point?


that's how the world works and how countries were formed.


Mexico had always a weak corrupt government and could NEVER managed those territories......get over it!
They lost to a strong corrupt govt. Might makes right I suppose.
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Old 09-13-2016, 08:03 AM
 
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Kingdom of Mexico 1886 - Charles III
A fantasy.

It never existed.
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Old 09-13-2016, 08:58 AM
 
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They lost to a strong corrupt govt. Might makes right I suppose.

name me 1 government in the history of civilization that didn't have corruption?

it has nothing to do about "right" or "wrong", it is the way it is!......the Mexican government were doing the same thing and would have expanded if they had a stronger military and we had a weak one.

When the leader of a country is a Military Dictator with the title General, 99.9% they will use their forces to expand and grab land and resources. History proved that over and over especially with the Banana Republics of Central and South America.


Looking how the Mexican government is running their country today, I'm not losing any sleep that they lost the territories over a century ago and neither should you if you have visited Mexico lately.......get over your sentimental American guilt.

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Old 09-13-2016, 09:20 AM
 
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Americans in a near future will have to define a territory as their mainland, as Spain, France England and Germany did or were forced to do.... and abandon all their "conquests". Conquests are not economical in the long run. Either that or you become another country. The thirteen colonies, the prairies, a large country.
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Old 09-13-2016, 09:26 AM
 
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name me 1 government in the history of civilization that didn't have corruption?

it has nothing to do about "right" or "wrong", it is the way it is!......the Mexican government were doing the same thing and would have expanded if they had a stronger military and we had a weak one.

When the leader of a country is a Military Dictator with the title General, 99.9% they will use their forces to expand and grab land and resources. History proved that over and over especially with the Banana Republics of Central and South America.


Looking how the Mexican government is running their country today, I'm not losing any sleep that they lost the territories over a century ago and neither should you if you have visited Mexico lately.......get over your sentimental American guilt.

Really, not your business. You probably have not visited Mexico beyond Tijana.

Could you imagine a foreign power saying...ohhh, the us has some shi...y states that are abandoned, let's take them now that they are weak".
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