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Old 10-13-2016, 11:03 AM
 
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Jimmy Carter
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Old 10-13-2016, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Ubique
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Honest is what sense? Morally, politically, ethically?
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Old 10-13-2016, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Podunk, IA
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Jimmy Carter
As good an answer as any.
He wasn't much of a President, unfortunately, so maybe it's not the job for an honest man.
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Old 10-13-2016, 12:22 PM
 
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I know William Taft is not considered a 'great president' by any means, but, my mother knew him (she was friends with his grand-daughter and I knew their whole family myself - though by that time, President Taft had died) and from what I heard through the family grapevine and knew of the family in general .. he was very honest (and perhaps a lot too nice for that role).
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Old 10-13-2016, 12:25 PM
 
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Harry Truman was directly responsible for lying to the American people that we were going to have to invade Japan and that we had to drop the two atomic bombs on them. His lie cost hundreds of thousands of Japanese lives mostly women and children.

The reality is that Japan was trying to get a Peace at the time, and just wanted to avoid an un-conditional one. the military and the POTUS wanted Japan totally on their backs. There would never have been an invasion. But the American people were so tired of the war that they bought his lie.
You sure our stuck on that issue aren't you? Newsflash - the topic you are trying to desperately divert each history thread to (at least this and one other recent one) has been discussed many times. I would recommend you put your opinions in one of the threads below, although don't expect many people to agree with you. I would also suggest you read through some of the posts on these two threads and maybe the others to educate yourself on the topic first however, it doesn't seem you are well informed.

Would FDR have dropped the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki ?
Your opinion on the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
What would have happened if we did not drop the Nukes on Japanese Cities in WW2?
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Old 10-13-2016, 12:32 PM
 
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I would agree with that as one of the top five or so...along with the ironic observation, when looking at the results of his administration, that honesty alone is not always the best qualities of being president.
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Old 10-13-2016, 01:43 PM
 
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The reality is that Japan was trying to get a Peace at the time, and just wanted to avoid an un-conditional one. the military and the POTUS wanted Japan totally on their backs. There would never have been an invasion. But the American people were so tired of the war that they bought his lie.
If they did not want to do a unconditional surrender they should not have attacked pearl Harbor in the first place. Do that, and atomic bomb or unconditional surrender are your choices and you have to pick one. They dithered on one and got the other.

You reap what you sow.
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Old 10-13-2016, 01:47 PM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC4K6n1iCgc

Most politicians are as honest as they have to be. It is rare to find someone as straight forward and truthful as Carter and Obama. I don't think any modern politician comes as close.

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Old 10-13-2016, 02:39 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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All were obviously imperfect human beings, but I think Washington and Eisenhower were both very straight-forward, honest men.
Their presidencies were more in the mold of reluctant, but dutiful, public servants, as opposed to self-serving, often-lying politicians..
Carter should be included in that; certainly honest, and he set aside his religious convictions to support the law (as in Roe v. Wade). His big stumbling block was that he accepted the Shah of Iran for cancer treatment in the US when no one else would. I think he felt he had to, since Iran had a long history of being a US "client state", and also he did it out of humanitarian motives. But it lead to the hostage crisis, which was his political undoing.

FDR certainly did a lot for the American people during the Depression. If there's any self-interest-related scandal, I may not be aware of it.
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Old 10-13-2016, 03:17 PM
 
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Hm.. George Washington, because he was the first.
Nope!
"Honest" George sold stone from his own quarries to the federal government for the construction of federal buildings in DC. Not only was his stone overpriced, but it was also not construction grade, thus leading to many repairs in later years.

Thus, we have both a classic Conflict of Interests as well as overcharging for substandard merchandise.

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