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And if these same people would navigate the NYC subway today, they would be lost and ultimately run over by a car or something.
So what's your point? Everything was better before because SEAMEN knew how to use a sextant? (Which is actually not that hard to use.)
Try using a sextant at the bottom of the earth in foul weather on a drifting boat.
No, if the internet goes down, we'll all die. Nobody would be able to google how to make fire or use a sextant.
The subway is really the most challenging 21st century threat you could think of?
Likewise it's reaching that the so-called tough guys in 1916 all knew how to use a sextant. Just because a few resilient stranded seamen knew how to navigate with primitive equipment doesn't mean that everyone knew it.
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Try using a sextant at the bottom of the earth in foul weather on a drifting boat.
No, if the internet goes down, we'll all die. Nobody would be able to google how to make fire or use a sextant.
The subway is really the most challenging 21st century threat you could think of?
If I'd have to, I could use a sextant, see where the sun sets, and adjust my course with the wind. If our lives depended on it, we probably all could do that.
The romanticism of the "old guard" is ridiculous with the assumption of that all men were supermen in the past and the men and women today are weaklings. The whole premise of this thread is that "kids today are so weak and losers, everything was better before, and even if my parents were tougher than me, boy, I'm tougher than these social media Millennials".
No, the 1916 tough guys might manage the subway, but not creating a backup copy of a hard-drive in 2016. That would be challenging for a 1916 tough guy.
Likewise it's reaching that the so-called tough guys in 1916 all knew how to use a sextant. Just because a few resilient stranded seamen knew how to navigate with primitive equipment doesn't mean that everyone knew it.
If I'd have to, I could use a sextant, see where the sun sets, and adjust my course with the wind. If our lives depended on it, we probably all could do that.
The romanticism of the "old guard" is ridiculous with the assumption of that all men were supermen in the past and the men and women today are weaklings. The whole premise of this thread is that "kids today are so weak and losers, everything was better before, and even if my parents were tougher than me, boy, I'm tougher than these social media Millennials".
No, the 1916 tough guys might manage the subway, but not creating a backup copy of a hard-drive in 2016. That would be challenging for a 1916 tough guy.
I think you are confusing tech savvy with being tough. The ability to back up a hard drive won't keep you alive.
Likewise it's reaching that the so-called tough guys in 1916 all knew how to use a sextant. Just because a few resilient stranded seamen knew how to navigate with primitive equipment doesn't mean that everyone knew it.
If I'd have to, I could use a sextant, see where the sun sets, and adjust my course with the wind. If our lives depended on it, we probably all could do that.
The romanticism of the "old guard" is ridiculous with the assumption of that all men were supermen in the past and the men and women today are weaklings. The whole premise of this thread is that "kids today are so weak and losers, everything was better before, and even if my parents were tougher than me, boy, I'm tougher than these social media Millennials".
No, the 1916 tough guys might manage the subway, but not creating a backup copy of a hard-drive in 2016. That would be challenging for a 1916 tough guy.
How many of today's SJ W's would voluntarily go over the top of a trench and run into machine gun fire? The majority of the adult male population in 1916 did just that.......
I think you are confusing tech savvy with being tough. The ability to back up a hard drive won't keep you alive.
Different perogatives, different times. Getting lost on the Tokyo subway won't keep you alive either.
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How many of today's SJ W's would voluntarily go over the top of a trench and run into machine gun fire? The majority of the adult male population in 1916 did just that.......
The hell I know? I'm classified as a Millennial, I'm a former Boy Scout and spent a year in the military. I don't consider myself as a 'tough guy', but if my life depends on it, I'll learn to navigate with a sextant, as I know the basics. I'm also sure that my fellow millennials will toughen up if needed and not cry for their smart phones like the older generations want to think.
How many of today's SJ W's would voluntarily go over the top of a trench and run into machine gun fire? The majority of the adult male population in 1916 did just that.......
Nobody ever said they were bright...loyal, maybe, and devoted to King and country...but not known for critical thinking. Not many, SJW or otherwise, would agree to do that today unless they were a religious fanatic, on drugs, or there was somebody behind them with a bigger machine gun. Send a couple drones and an air strike and it would be over.
Different perogatives, different times. Getting lost on the Tokyo subway won't keep you alive either.
The hell I know? I'm classified as a Millennial, I'm a former Boy Scout and spent a year in the military. I don't consider myself as a 'tough guy', but if my life depends on it, I'll learn to navigate with a sextant, as I know the basics. I'm also sure that my fellow millennials will toughen up if needed and not cry for their smart phones like the older generations want to think.
I've actually been lost on a Tokyo subway. I survived and lived to tell the tale.
They had subways in 1916 by the way.
As a collective we no longer have the skills to survive without modern technology.
It's not possible to transport someone from 1916 here to face the dangers of backing up hard drives and navigating modern transit systems, however we could end up stuck without power, cellphones, and internet as if it were 1916.
If you get stranded on a desert island the skills and "toughness" of someone from 100 years ago would be preferred.
Nobody ever said they were bright...loyal, maybe, and devoted to King and country...but not known for critical thinking. Not many, SJW or otherwise, would agree to do that today unless they were a religious fanatic, on drugs, or there was somebody behind them with a bigger machine gun. Send a couple drones and an air strike and it would be over.
They were plenty bright. This was the generation that invented airships, submarines, tanks, airplanes, cars, and dig the Panama Canal without computers or modern tools and equipment.
Charging over a trench is something expected of all soldiers in all time periods. The decision to send a drone over first or just do a bonzai charge isn't up to junior enlisted personnel regardless of critical thinking skills.
At least we could finish a war in less than 5 years back then. Now even with drones, stealth fighters and satellites we can't wrap them up in 15.
Bigger and taller perhaps but not necessarily stronger, people tended to have to do a lot more manual labour 100 years ago than they do now, a lot of 21st century people are rather erm 'soft' around the edges, just look at how people complain about 'lack of air conditioning' in hotels and the such, I think mankind is 'generally' a lot 'softer' in the modern world. The wild west, Victorian London, The Roman empire - I imagine that a lot 'modern' people would find it tough living in those environments considering how a lack of Air Con is now such a problem.
The "average" person back then was not a couch potato. However, a "fit" person today versus a "fit" person from back then? No contest, 2016 wins. A 2016 person would have to adapt to 1916 conditions, but they'd certainly adjust. Besides, being "softer" means they have less bumps and bruises over their lifetime...the modern person would have fresh-legs so to speak.
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