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Originally Posted by Austin023
I'm going to revive this thread sorry to say.
The sewer aspect I've long found very interesting...a so often ignored theory that frankly while I normally would find incredible, might be plausible in these circumstances.
Personally, I think Oswald was used as a patsy (he even admitted so on television after his arrest) by agents ...my general theory is rogue elements of CIA in league with either mafia or anti Castro figures orchestrated the assassination.
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Democrats.
Specifically, Democrats from Florida and Texas, and possibly Louisiana.
Sometime in January/February 1963, some Democrats approached him at his residence in Kennebunkport.
They asked him to resign for the good of the Party.
Kennedy, of course, being the arrogant bastard he was, refused.
That's what put the assassination plot into play.
Kennedy could have resigned for health reasons, and not one person in the US would have blinked. He was truly a sick man and didn't have much longer to live anyway.
None of you understand the Cuban Missile Crisis. Everything you know comes from the Pukipedia Propaganda/Media Version and not the Real-Factual Version.
The Republicans knew the Real-Factual Version (just as everyone in the military and some people in the Media did) and would have beat Kennedy over the head with it in 1964.
In the words of General LeMay, "
We lost!"
Of course, LeMay knows the Real-Factual Version and not the Camelot Propaganda Version.
Kennedy was reckless. He actually caused the crisis. And then lost.
When Americans learned of Kennedy's stupid recklessness that caused the crisis that frightened everyone and then he had to back down, Americans would have been very angry. That's what those Congressmen feared most.
But, if Kennedy resigns, then LBJ comes in with a clean slate and Republicans can't fault LBJ for JFK's stupidity and so the lid is kept on the whole thing and LBJ's chances were much better than JFK's.
LBJ, although a Democrat and from Texas, was not a party to the conspiracy.
It's possible he may have been given hints, or told out-right
after-the-fact, which might be one of the reasons he tried to sweep the whole thing under the rug, but he had no knowledge beforehand.
Castro was never involved and had no knowledge. He does, however, make a convenient scape-goat.
The MAFIA was not directly involved.
However, the Tampa, New Orleans and Dallas MAFIA families were indirectly involved providing soft support and intelligence, and probably some money.
The CIA was not involved.
There were several CIA agents involved.
The fact that CIA agents were involved does not make it a CIA sanctioned operation any more than claims that board members and shareholders of Burger King conspired with two Burger King employees to put marihuana on a cop's hamburger.
Some people are little-brains and can't understand that employees can act without authority or permission, and that's especially true of government employees who often act without authority or permission.
Knowledge is not imputed.
For example, little-brains are so stupid they think the Social Security Administration has a huge Jumbotron in the office displaying the name, address, social security number and date, time and place of death of people who die in real time so Social Security can stop sending checks to them.
An example of MAFIA indirect support/intelligence would be identifying assassins.
The MAFIA could provide lists of persons willing, able and capable of assassination.
The MAFIA could also identify people living outside the US, like in Sicily, southern Italy and elsewhere who could come into the US as tourists, make the kill shot, and then leave without drawing suspicion.
More to the point, the MAFIA could identify assassins they were willing to part with.
Remember, this is 1963. These are old-school MAFIA
dons who were making their bones in the late 1920s and during the 1930s. They would have no problem executing an assassin to prevent disclosure/discovery, and under the
Omerta, that person's family would be compensated or taken care of.
I mention that, because southern Italians are dark-skinned and it would be very, very easy for a southern hick to mistake an Italian-language speaker as someone speaking Spanish and think a person was Mexican/Cuban when in fact they were Sicilian or Calabrian or Neapolitan.
Anyway, the answer is at the Kennedy Library. My hope is to get there at some time in the future and cruise through his day-planner, calendar, personal notes etc to get the names of the people who came to see him.
Those Congressmen would be the Principals, not the Conspirators.
The Principals in a conspiracy never get their hands dirty and they are well-insulated by the Conspirators who do the dirty work and the Conspirators would gladly fall on their swords without giving it a second thought to protect the Principals.
That's because they are fanatics.
Most people aren't smart enough to realize they were an unwitting participant in a conspiracy.
Not all conspiracies are criminal in nature. Lot of conspiracies in office politics.
I need something done and I need you to do it, but if I go to you, A) you'll know me, and B) you might not be willing to do it because it is me.
So, I get someone to get another to get someone else to get you to do it, and you do it without ever realizing it was me all along.
That's how well-organized conspiracies actually work. There are a number of links in the chain between the Conspirator and the Actor, which makes it difficult to find out who the Conspirator really is.
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