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Old 04-25-2017, 12:30 PM
 
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Before the bombs were dropped Eisenhower, Nimitz and MacArthur all expressed opinion that the bombs were not necessary to end the war.
Eisenhower, Nimitz, and MacArthur were not going to be in the landing craft hitting the beach in Honshu. My father was.
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Old 04-25-2017, 12:53 PM
 
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Eisenhower, Nimitz, and MacArthur were not going to be in the landing craft hitting the beach in Honshu. My father was.
Exactly.

The ridiculous thing is that if the US had carpet bombed the area and killed and injured the exact same number of Japanese it wouldn't even be an issue today.

And it wouldn't have brought an end to the war.
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Old 04-25-2017, 01:39 PM
 
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Exactly.

The ridiculous thing is that if the US had carpet bombed the area and killed and injured the exact same number of Japanese it wouldn't even be an issue today.

And it wouldn't have brought an end to the war.
Or starved in the submarine warfare that was choking off the island.
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Old 04-25-2017, 01:43 PM
 
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Q: What is History's greatest lie?

A: The idea that this train-wreck of a thread is actually about history?
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Old 04-25-2017, 01:43 PM
 
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Atheism.
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Old 04-25-2017, 01:48 PM
 
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Paul Bunyan had a Blue Ox?
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Old 04-25-2017, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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Default The Crusades...

..as a deliberate lie--rank up there for sure..Pope Urban II deliberately started the Crusades as a means of relieving the pressure of feudal knights raising trouble in Europe...by commissioning Peter the Hermit to preach a Crusade and by his speech at the Council of Clermont, the Pope was able to solve a number of problems at once..he was able to raise troops against the Turks, who were knocking on the door of Constantinople..and he rallied people to the church, causing a great welling of support and wealth.

It was all a lie, for the most part--there was no real reason to hie off to the holy land and 'rescue' the city.

As an added note..certainly the Children's Crusade was one of the most horrific lies in history...as most of the children who answered the call ended up dead or sold as slaves--to the Moslems.

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Old 04-25-2017, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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Default Some Notable Lies...

..as they occurred to me:



The Virgin Birth of Christ

Columbus 'discovering' America

African people are sub-human

The Lusitania wasn't carrying munitions for England--and thus wasn't a legitimate target of the German sub that sank her.

The Spanish sunk the Maine.

Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.

An Alien ship crashed and the body of an alien is somewhere in Area 51.

Let's have fun with this...add your own!
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Old 04-25-2017, 02:20 PM
 
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Fear of the overcrowding of the Earth is a very "American" cultural hang-up. Most people in the world don't live in a country of 330 million that is 4% of the global population but consumes 25% of global resources in which 75% of these people are scattered in low density suburbs or rural areas. Never fear there is plenty more carrying capacity on the Planet Earth:

World overpopulation wouldn’t be such a big problem (space-wise, at least) if everyone lived as densely as they do in South Korea or New Jersey

Now if any other country within two standard deviations of the American population (such as China, India, Indonesia, or Brazil) all of a sudden develop identical consumptive habits of Americans, then yes, the planet is screwed.

Not sure if overcrowding constitutes a lie of history but certainly a myth.


You can take my half acre of exurbia from my cold dead hands. I lived in dense areas and it sucks. People are loud and it smells bad.
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Old 04-25-2017, 02:54 PM
 
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You can take my half acre of exurbia from my cold dead hands. I lived in dense areas and it sucks. People are loud and it smells bad.
Jersey huh... What exit ?
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