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Old 06-30-2017, 03:16 AM
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_B%C3%A1thory

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Countess Elizabeth Báthory de Ecsed (Hungarian: Báthory Erzsébet, Slovak: Alžbeta Bátoriová ; 7 August 1560 – 21 August 1614)[2] was a Hungarian noblewoman and serial killer from the Báthory family of nobility in the Kingdom of Hungary. She has been labelled by Guinness World Records as the most prolific female murderer,[3] though the precise number of her victims is debated. Báthory and four collaborators were accused of torturing and killing hundreds of young women between 1585 and 1609.
Do you think she were simply an innocent victim of the time of the EVIL patriarchy? Or do you think she was just straight up evil?

 
Old 07-01-2017, 07:02 AM
 
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How would she be an innocent victim?
 
Old 07-01-2017, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Marleinie View Post
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_B%C3%A1thory



Do you think she were simply an innocent victim of the time of the EVIL patriarchy? Or do you think she was just straight up evil?
I think feminists would try to say she was just a victim of the patriarchy. Feminists refuse to see women as perpetrators, only victims. But the fact is, women can be just as evil as men. That is an uncomfortable fact for many people, so they try to make all kinds of excuses for these women.
 
Old 07-01-2017, 10:26 AM
 
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Detailed discussion on it in 2016:
Should Elizabeth Bathory be vindicated?

Really nothing more to add that I didn't add then, and with 3 pages of posts it was well covered from all angles.


Wait a second - you OP started the original topic back then, why another one?
 
Old 07-01-2017, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by Dd714 View Post
Detailed discussion on it in 2016:
Should Elizabeth Bathory be vindicated?

Really nothing more to add that I didn't add then, and with 3 pages of posts it was well covered from all angles.


Wait a second - you OP started the original topic back then, why another one?
Like many of the people here who post mostly on the politics forum, the OP is just looking to stir the pot under the pretext of historical inquiry.
 
Old 07-01-2017, 07:29 PM
 
Location: The High Desert
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I never met the woman.
 
Old 07-01-2017, 07:30 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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If we were lovers I wouldn't take a bath with her.
 
Old 07-01-2017, 08:59 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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So interesting! I saw the name "Bathory", and I thought, "Hungarian?" The Turko-Mongol word "bator" (like the city name: Ulan Bator) means hero, or warrior-hero. According to many historians, including Hungarians themselves, the Huns originally were Turkic-speakers. So that's what her surname means.
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