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Old 08-24-2017, 11:40 PM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Some are still revelling in the vast amounts paid out so slave owners when they gave up their slaves.

Britain's colonial shame: Slave-owners given huge payouts after abolition | The Independent
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Old 08-25-2017, 02:27 AM
 
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Some of the usual nonsense about American slavery being spoken here. Again we have those who are trying to paint American slavery as "unique."

All slavery was unique in that there was no one system, and some of the slavery in Africa dwarfed that of America in cruelty. In Africa:

Slaves were given to cannibals to eat
Slaves were castrated en masse to create eunucs. They were left to bleed out, and most died.
Slaves were made into humna sacrifices, sometimed killed hundreds at a time, sometimes burned alive
Slaves were worked to death--the average lifespan of a slave in Kanem-Bornu was seven years
Sexual slavery was pervasive- some women were forced to be village prostitues and died from the trauma to their bodies
Slaves were forced to fight in slave armies.

Anyone who studies Africa knowns these things.

I would much rather be a chattel slave in America than be given to cannibals to eat, be burned alive as human sacrifice, or be castrated and left to die/made a eunuch slave if I lived.

Anyone who is honest will say the same.
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Old 08-25-2017, 04:23 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Some of the usual nonsense about American slavery being spoken here. Again we have those who are trying to paint American slavery as "unique."

All slavery was unique in that there was no one system, and some of the slavery in Africa dwarfed that of America in cruelty. In Africa:

Slaves were given to cannibals to eat
Slaves were castrated en masse to create eunucs. They were left to bleed out, and most died.
Slaves were made into humna sacrifices, sometimed killed hundreds at a time, sometimes burned alive
Slaves were worked to death--the average lifespan of a slave in Kanem-Bornu was seven years
Sexual slavery was pervasive- some women were forced to be village prostitues and died from the trauma to their bodies
Slaves were forced to fight in slave armies.

Anyone who studies Africa knowns these things.

I would much rather be a chattel slave in America than be given to cannibals to eat, be burned alive as human sacrifice, or be castrated and left to die/made a eunuch slave if I lived.

Anyone who is honest will say the same.
wouldnt like to ever be in any of the positions to choose... maybe a quick death would be better than any ..
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Old 08-25-2017, 05:00 AM
 
Location: Southern New England
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wouldnt like to ever be in any of the positions to choose... maybe a quick death would be better than any ..
This.


I'm sitting here trying to add more words, but nothing I think of is adequate. As I wrote in another thread, the goals of each human generation are -at least in part- to become more humane. I hope we keep on that path. Random acts of good behavior.
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Old 08-25-2017, 05:29 AM
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The most unique thing about American Slavery was why such an archaic and barbaric system was brought to "New World " by people escaping persecution.
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Old 08-25-2017, 05:33 AM
 
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The most unique thing about American Slavery was why such an archaic and barbaric system was brought to "New World " by people escaping persecution.
werent they persecuted by the slavers before they got the new world...and it was already in the new world before black slaves...
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Old 08-25-2017, 05:56 AM
 
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What happened in the U.S is similar to what happened in nearly every country in the western hemisphere.
British North America only received 10% of the people from the African slave trade. The death rate was so high on some of the Islands that they needed to import new slaves to maintain the population.
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Old 08-25-2017, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Huntsville
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The most unique thing about American Slavery was why such an archaic and barbaric system was brought to "New World " by people escaping persecution.


Because in those times it wasn't considered archaic or barbaric. It was a way of life. As our society has evolved we have learned of the evils behind it and as more enlightened human beings we realize that the institution is unnecessary and inhumane. But the only way we were able to get to that enlightened state was to go through it.


We should learn from it and better ourselves. Not continuously bring it up in efforts to push an agenda (which is what many use it for because it's such a polarizing topic).
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Old 08-25-2017, 06:36 AM
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Because in those times it wasn't considered archaic or barbaric. It was a way of life. As our society has evolved we have learned of the evils behind it and as more enlightened human beings we realize that the institution is unnecessary and inhumane. But the only way we were able to get to that enlightened state was to go through it.


We should learn from it and better ourselves. Not continuously bring it up in efforts to push an agenda (which is what many use it for because it's such a polarizing topic).
The Quakers knew in the 1600's that slavery was barbaric. Slavery was already 5000 years old by the time it was brought to the New World. That's why the only place to buy slaves was in a part of the world that was considered by the Europeans as the "Dark Continent" due to it's known savagery.
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Old 08-25-2017, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Because in those times it wasn't considered archaic or barbaric. It was a way of life. As our society has evolved we have learned of the evils behind it and as more enlightened human beings we realize that the institution is unnecessary and inhumane. But the only way we were able to get to that enlightened state was to go through it.


We should learn from it and better ourselves. Not continuously bring it up in efforts to push an agenda (which is what many use it for because it's such a polarizing topic).
IM sorry but someone must have known that this shouldnt be a way of life. it was cruel beyond reasoning the way these souls were treated and seen as lower than animals.. these people were only used to make certain people very rich.. Educated people who should have known better but were too greedy to care..
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