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Old 10-04-2017, 04:32 PM
 
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Referring to the question in the OP, this link might help. It gives a brief summary of all of the English monarchs and their hereditary claims to the English throne. After the unification of the Kingdoms of England and Scotland, the list of British monarchs picks up here.

Pay extra attention to when the ruling Houses change - those are the ones most likely to have breaks in the line of succession. But, as the links show, all English monarchs since 1066 and all British monarchs can trace their lineage, however haphazardly, back to William the Conqueror. And William, born a bastard, was the last English monarch who wasn't a descendant of another English Monarch.
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Old 10-07-2017, 12:33 PM
 
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I'd say it was Edward VI, during his brief reign 5,500 were put to death for being Catholic. Granted, as a minor, he "ruled" through a Council of Regency and a Lord Protector- his uncle- a known zealot.
That mass murder is not mentioned in the Wikipedia page for Edward VI. Was it a specific slaughter or gradual executions across years?

If you look at the rest of Europe, was there the same amount of hate between the two denominations?
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Old 10-08-2017, 02:14 PM
 
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Is it true that when the current queen dies, Prince Charles will automatically be the king?

Didn't want to start a new thread for this.
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Old 10-08-2017, 03:14 PM
 
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Diferent country ....
But in Spain, in 1969, after 30 years of Franco's dictatorship,
Franco appointed Juan Carlos Borbon to be his sucesor and declares him Prince of Spain
Skipping his father who was still alive.

Confirming what I always say,
Monarchy is same as a dictatorship.
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Old 10-08-2017, 03:56 PM
 
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Is it true that when the current queen dies, Prince Charles will automatically be the king?
Yes, by the British Parliament's Succession to the Crown Act of 2013 Charles is next in line to become King of the United Kingdom.
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Old 10-08-2017, 04:03 PM
 
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<>The English monarchy supposedly runs, not in a direct line but in a zig-zag, all the way back to William the Conqueror.
aHA! Now there's a break, eh?
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Old 10-08-2017, 04:29 PM
 
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In the British monarchy, was there ever a monarch who was not (biologically) related to the previous monarch?
What do you mean by 'related'? I mean, I'm related to the maple tree in my front yard, though as cousins we're rather distant.

Because just by doing simple math, you realize how recently people of one nation - especially when most of that time was far more insular than now - are going to be related. Consider four generations per century. Now consider five hundred years. A person who is 25 today living in, say, London, would have 8 ancestors born approximately 100 years ago, 128 born approximately 200 years ago, 2048 born approximately 300 years ago, 32768 born approximately 400 years ago, 524288 born approximately 500 years ago. Given the tendency of people to marry within their social strata (princes don't marry the tanner's daughter, after all), then the inter-relatedness of English royals becomes clear.

Case in point:
Every President of the United States but one, from Washington thru Obama (Martin Van Buren was the sole outlier) were descended directly from King John, who lived from 1166 to 1216.
The US Presidents who descend from King John of England – and why you probably do too | Abroad in the Yard
[the article pre-dates Trump, so I have no idea about his status, but he's probably a descendant, too]

Anyway, if almost all American Presidents are descended from a post-Conquest English king, it's a pretty good bet all subsequent English monarchs are as well, no?

Trivia:
President Van Buren was the only President whose native language was not English. He grew up in a Dutch-speaking community, and only learned English as a second language when he went off to the local school. One can only surmise that this would have truncated whatever Presidential aspirations he might have had in this xenophobic day and age.
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Old 10-08-2017, 05:18 PM
 
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Yes, by the British Parliament's Succession to the Crown Act of 2013 Charles is next in line to become King of the United Kingdom.


Said act did nothing to change facts on ground that Prince Charles would succeed; that was never the issue.


It was more about dealing with the strong anti-papist (Roman Catholic) laws, primogeniture, permission to marry and other issues created from previous acts affecting the succession, most of which came into force in 1700's. Interestingly this push for "equality" came from outside England, via the Commonwealth nations.


Simply put it was just seen as plain discrimination that in these "modern times" a female could be displaced by male heir even if he was many years her junior.


What is interesting is that neither the act of 2013 nor the laws allowing gay marriages affected the crown and Prince of Wales. As things currently stand (unless have missed something) there will not be a SSM British sovereign, nor will there be a male consort to Prince of Wales.


Also the POW is still reserved for the eldest son of monarch, and Princess of Wales still remains the title of his consort (of the opposite sex).
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Old 10-09-2017, 05:01 AM
 
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Said act did nothing to change facts on ground that Prince Charles would succeed; that was never the issue.
You're correct.

But I linked the latest law, not laws in effect that established the successors to Henry VIII nor the law that offered the monarchy to William and Mary.
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Old 10-09-2017, 06:14 AM
 
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Is it true that when the current queen dies, Prince Charles will automatically be the king?

Didn't want to start a new thread for this.
I heard or read somewhere that Charles really isn't interested and would rather pass being King along to his son William who is next in line of course.
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