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Old 11-19-2019, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I saw the term Scots-Irish sometimes, maybe it's more appropriate. I wouldn't necessarily called them Scottish because they were also some from northern England who moved to Northern Ireland, then America and they were considered as Scotch-Irish. T.
There is no such nationality as "Scotch", it refers to whiskey.
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Old 11-20-2019, 07:23 PM
 
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Any American of colonial stock who thinks he is purely Scotch-Irish--and that is the historically correct term--is kidding himself. That ethnicity has not existed since the 1700's. It would probably be impossible to trace back the family tree of any white southern descendant of British American colonists to before the Revolution without finding ancestors who had come from Northern Ireland, or to find one person who had no ancestors other than Scotch-Irish. The most that can be said is that they were more numerous in some areas than others, and even that difference is usually exaggerated.

The only sensible ethnic classification for such people is "American", and the census now permits this.
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Old Yesterday, 01:08 PM
 
Location: San Francisco/East Bay and Los Angeles, formerly DC and Boston
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The Revolutionary War might not have been won without Scotch-Irish fighting men.
The Scots-Irish were rabidly Patriotic, while Scottish lowlanders and highlanders tended to be loyalists. So much so that many moved to Canada/British North America after the revolution.
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Old Yesterday, 02:24 PM
 
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Maybe this website has more information in that regard, probably.

Scotch-Irish are not my words and there are those who may or may not take offense to the usage, after all...as we all know, Scotch is a whiskey, and yet it seems the terminology is something that was/is used only in America, apparently.

The Scotch-Irish - The Melting Pot: The ethnic group that blended

It has already been observed that no other immigrants were so patriotically unanimous in support of the American cause as the Scotch-Irish. One group of patriotic settlers in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina, drew up a set of resolutions on May 20, 1775, declaring the people of that county free and independent of the British Crown. This predominantly Scotch-Irish assemblage thus anticipated by more than a year the Declaration of Independence. The Revolutionary War might not have been won without Scotch-Irish fighting men.

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The Scots-Irish were rabidly Patriotic, while Scottish lowlanders and highlanders tended to be loyalists. So much so that many moved to Canada/British North America after the revolution.
Thank you TheseGoTo11
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Old Today, 03:42 PM
 
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May have posted this before but just in case. It seems they didn't like Irish being used in their name.



"...Ulster began to send out swarms to America; shipload after shipload of men trained to labor and habits of independence, sought the American shores; year after year the tide rolled on without once ebbing; and many thousands of these descendants of the emigrants from Scotland, disdaining to be called Irish, filled the upper country of Pennsylvania, Virginia and the Carolinas. Ulster, in Ireland, has been an exhaustless hive, a perennial spring..." Sketches of North Carolina by WH Foote 1846

'Moreover,it is interesting to note that they did not regard themselves as Irish. In fact,nothing infuriated them more than to be classed as Irish' ''Ulster Sails West''1943. by W.F.Marshall



''We are surprised to hear ourselves termed Irish people. It is hard in this new land to be identified with the very people to whom we have always been opposed''. It is a great pity the term used had not been Ulster/Ulster-Scots as it surely would have been more accurate and would have prevented the Irish and so-called Irish-Americans from claiming Ulster Scottish achievements in America to their own advantage. 'To Ulster's Credit' 1981 by Sam Allen



'Thus appears one of the first uses of the much-despised term ''Scotch-Irish.'' These people were not Irish and,after generations of sharing contempt for the 'mere' Irish and their ''papist''religion did not relish being associated with them' ''West From Shenandoah'' 2004.by Thomas A.Lewis


' mere' The Latin word merus means ' pure, unmixed, undiluted '. The Irish were known by the English as the 'mere Irish'

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