What Really Happened To Hitler At The End of WW2? (Russian, years)
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I recall reading that after the old Soviet Union fell the Kremlin archives were opened to foreign historians and the media. There was a video taken that showed some official producing a box. The lid was removed, tissue paper was unwrapped revealing pieces of a human skull. One piece clearly had a small bullet hole that could only have been made by a small caliber handgun. Hitler reportedly shot himself with a Walther PPK semi auto pistol. This was identified by Russian officials as Hitler’s skull.
This was identified by Russian officials as Hitler’s skull.
DNA says the skull belongs to a female. Hitler was a male. Therefore, there is zero evidence that Hitler died at the bunker. Only his own men said that he killed himself and they burned the bodys. Considering what was at stake, if the extension of the 3rd Reich was real, they would have lied to their death for him. Nobody knows 100% for sure what happened to Hitler. What is for certain and evidence is there to back it up, the Nazi Party was alive and well in South America after the war. Was Hitler part of it? Hard to say as there's no real proof other than witnesses that said they saw Hitler in S America after the war. So who has the credible witnesses? Was it Hitlers men that had everything to gain for the party or the civilians in S America that had nothing to gain? With no body, no DNA evidence, you can make up any story you want as the truth is not there nor is the evidence, one way or the other.
I'm not sure it even matters what happened to him, but this is one of those pieces of WW2 lore that will probably never be settled properly. The official story is admittedly a typical and convenient one but they seem to be sticking to it. (Sort of like with Osama Bin Laden: "Oh yeah, yeah, we dumped him in the ocean...that's it")
They never did positively identify his remains, so anything is technically possible. It's not entirely out of the realm that his inner posse hatched a plan behind his back to drag him out of there kicking and screaming. Even though he'd half lost his mind and was a shell of his former self by the end he was still worshipped on a certain level.
DNA says the skull belongs to a female. Hitler was a male. Therefore, there is zero evidence that Hitler died at the bunker. Only his own men said that he killed himself and they burned the bodys. Considering what was at stake, if the extension of the 3rd Reich was real, they would have lied to their death for him. Nobody knows 100% for sure what happened to Hitler. What is for certain and evidence is there to back it up, the Nazi Party was alive and well in South America after the war. Was Hitler part of it? Hard to say as there's no real proof other than witnesses that said they saw Hitler in S America after the war. So who has the credible witnesses? Was it Hitlers men that had everything to gain for the party or the civilians in S America that had nothing to gain? With no body, no DNA evidence, you can make up any story you want as the truth is not there nor is the evidence, one way or the other.
You really need to familiarize yourself on what the definition of "evidence" is. The detailed investigation led by the allies in 1945 at the conclusion of the war, and took 2 years, interviewing every possible witness and examining every shred of evidence, and concluding that Hitler did indeed die in that bunker, fulfills every legal and historical standard required as "evidence". Case closed!
All that was accumulated by a MI-5 intelligence officer, Maj. Hugh Trevor-Roper. If you want to see the summary of this investigation and an undisputed (except by conspiracy kooks) hour by hour account of his last moments you can read "The Last Days of Hitler".
Now to further this, if you do want physical evidence to convince you a 128 year old human being is dead...let's forget about the silly skull fragment retained by the soviets. The only reason that stood out amongst the bones they collected was that it had a bullet hole in it. But they also retained a jaw. That was xrayed seperatly in 1973, compared to other records, and results published in a Swedish publication Acta Odontologica Scandinavica, which concluded: "The accumulated evidence now provides definite odontologic proof that Hitler did in fact die, and that the Russians did indeed recover and autopsy the right body."
If the whole thing was settled in 1973 then why was the University of Connecticut still wasting its time with the matter in 2009? Also, I don’t think anybody here is suggesting he is still alive, lol. Although he does have a grand nephew who lives on Long Island (Hitler’s brother did have a family...)
Also, where is Eva Braun’s body? If they were supposedly wrapped up and burned together outside the bunker you would assume she would have been right there along with ole’ A.H.-The Chief wherever they ended up burying the remains right? The skull fragment would fit her description, but I don’t think anybody ever suggested she took a bullet in the head, at least that I know of. Everybody focuses on him and forgets the obvious questions about her.
Yes. The Soviets did have the jaw amongst other bone fragments. As I recall they were able to locate Hitler’s dentist and x rays. They concluded the teeth, dental work and x rays clearly demonstrated that the remains were indeed Adolph Hitler.
If the whole thing was settled in 1973 then why was the University of Connecticut still wasting its time with the matter in 2009? Also, I don’t think anybody here is suggesting he is still alive, lol. Although he does have a grand nephew who lives on Long Island (Hitler’s brother did have a family...)
Also, where is Eva Braun’s body? If they were supposedly wrapped up and burned together outside the bunker you would assume she would have been right there along with ole’ A.H.-The Chief wherever they ended up burying the remains right? The skull fragment would fit her description, but I don’t think anybody ever suggested she took a bullet in the head, at least that I know of. Everybody focuses on him and forgets the obvious questions about her.
Forget about Hitler's skull thing. It's a red herring - not relevant. It's not related to the jaw which dates from the original Russian autopsy reports done on Hitler's remains soon after Berlin surrendered, these were then compared in the 1970s to Hitler's dental history (apparently he had an active dental history on record). The only thing the UC testing concluded was it was not Hitler's skull.
Eva Braun? Who cares. You are right - reports say she took cyanide but choose not to shot herself. The skull was found a full year after the war in the burial pit. Could have been anyones.
I believe both Joseph and Magda Goebbels committed suicide by shots to the head with a pistol. Like Hitler and Eva Braun they were burned and left in the area surrounding the bunker. Perhaps the female skull fragment was hers?
This above ground area around the bunker during the closing hours of the Battle of Berlin was an active combat zone. Subject to artillery and small arms fire. The Soviets had females who served on the front line and suffered casualties.
In combat anywhere any time in the immediate aftermath of a battle casualties both civilian and military are hastily buried in makeshift graves. So for the sake of argument the mysterious skull with the bullet hole could have been Magda, A Soviet female soldier or civilian caught in crossfire.
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