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Old 11-23-2018, 03:48 PM
 
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Im speaking of ANTIFA...be safe

Sorry for the false assumption. Yeah, Antifa. What do you do with a group of people who claim to be anti-fascist, but then act like extreme fascists themselves?

It seems that the places that allow them to "act out", would be well served by leaders like Democrat Richard J. Daley of 1968 Chicago, who responded to the riots by ordering, "Looters, shoot to maim. Arsonists, shoot to kill". Violence, destruction of property, and especially arson, since it is so potentially life-threatening, should not be tolerated AT ALL in a civil society. Those knuckleheads (arsonists) need to be treated the same as the idiot in the Las Vegas high rise shooting out the window: SWAT sharpshooters should get the green light.
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Old 11-23-2018, 04:41 PM
 
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Sounded like a typical left-leaning progressive of his day.
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Old 11-25-2018, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NYUSA, Earth, Solar System, Milky Way.
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Sounded like a typical left-leaning progressive of his day.
Sheeesh. Why not go 'the whole hog'?

Why Albert Einstein was a socialist

https://bigthink.com/scotty-hendrick...as-a-socialist
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Old 11-25-2018, 07:37 AM
 
Location: New York
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People are patterns. Just because you bought into this equality thing doesnít make it true. The races have different traits and abilities from each other. Ever wonder why blacks are great athlete but lower intelligence than other races? Why East Asians are high intelligence, not as good athletes, and a family based/insular society? - evolution, climate, interbreeding (or lack thereof) with other humanoids. Itís all selective pressures. Science and nature are under no responsibility to be fair. Einstein lived in a time where people didnít have to lie about the obvious.
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Old 11-25-2018, 08:46 AM
 
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These alleged racist remarks consisted of nothing more than a couple of idle remarks he made as a young man, in a diary never meant to be read by anyone else. How many of us can truthfully say that in our young and more foolish days, we never uttered a single slur against those of other ethnicities?

I can.


I know that, when I was in College and people wanted me to be "cool" (the thing is, using me for their own personal entertainment,) of course they tried to get me to say the N-word. (The full, 6 letter, ending in -er version of.) Then, they tried to get me to say the abbreviated, "cool" 5-letter version of, ending in -a.)



I never did.



I think saying and using it perpetuates the original racist intent of the word, and the style of using the -a version comes about halfway in letting "black people" turn it into their own.. I wish it would stop but if you put on any hip-hop station, you'll see that it isn't.


Que sera.. it's just one of those things.
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Old 12-01-2018, 09:53 PM
 
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So like the only Jew back then who did not like Chinese food.
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Old 12-04-2018, 08:23 AM
 
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Those were perfectly normal views at that time...can't judge historical figures using contemporary P.C.
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Old 12-04-2018, 10:42 AM
 
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Chinese do squat instead of sitting down on a bench or something. That is weird and don't act like you never thought the same thing. They probably think it's weird to not squat. It's ok to not be all alike.


Generations from now our descendants are going to make fun of us for being so ridiculously PC.
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Old 12-05-2018, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Nor was Einstein.

In both cases, that fact could not be more irrelevant to their places in histtory. Which was my entire point in juxtaposing Einstein's social views with King's physics.

A point that obviously went completely over your head...
Well, we didn't let William Shockley(pioneer of the semiconductor/integrated circuit) off the hook for his forays into eugenics, and for a good reason - he actively promoted that and was rightfully condemned for it.
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Old 12-05-2018, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Under Moon & Star
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Well, we didn't let William Shockley(pioneer of the semiconductor/integrated circuit) off the hook for his forays into eugenics, and for a good reason - he actively promoted that and was rightfully condemned for it.
I won't equate Einstein's musings in a private diary with Shockley's very public espousing of his professional opinions on race - specifically, on the inherent inferiority of some races to others. There is no comparison.

Frankly, there is this pop culture notion of Einstein as an avuncular sage, wise in all things. And it's not only nonsense, there's no reason for it. He was a physicist. Full stop. That does nothing to make his opinions on peace or race of whatever relevant in any way. Nor do those other opinions, regardless of what they are, reflect in any way on Einstein's breakthroughs in physics. Einstein wasn't perfect. He was a poor mate and a distant father. So? What's the relevance to his physics, which is his place in history?

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Do we really give a damn about "racist views" written almost 100 years ago of someone who died over 60 years ago?

This "let's revise history bulls**t is going too far
No. Now it's you who is going too far.

No one is 'revising' history, except to the extent that previously-unavailable information is being added. There's nothing wrong with that. I don't think it's particularly relevant, but neither am I part of the brigade who wants to bury it so we can perpetuate the false image of Einstein's supposed saintliness.

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We want to destroy statues and disparage the accomplishments of people during times that are quite different from today.
Uh... this has nothing to do with statues. There are statues of Einstein. Who is demanding they be destroyed? No one.

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No one is perfect
Correct. So stop demanding that we pretend Einstein was perfect by ignoring his imperfections.
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